New house build: tank water heater vs. tankless water heater

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I'm very happy to hear this. We just bought a new house and I have no clue (besides being cheap) that they installed an electric water heater instead of gas. From what I read online, electric is going to be more expensive?
Way, way more expensive. I have around a 4000 sq/ft house with two teenagers still at home and the usage portion of my gas bill in the summer with a 60-gallon gas tank is around $12/month. There is just no significant savings available with a tankless, and electric is much more expensive.
 

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Way, way more expensive. I have around a 4000 sq/ft house with two teenagers still at home and the usage portion of my gas bill in the summer with a 60-gallon gas tank is around $12/month. There is just no significant savings available with a tankless, and electric is much more expensive.
When I ran the numbers, it looked like a gas water heater would cost me about $300/year and the electric about $400/year. This is with Mid America rates.
 

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Hijacking a bit, but at what age would you replace a water heater if it's working fine? Mine is 16 years old but no issues with it
 

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Hijacking a bit, but at what age would you replace a water heater if it's working fine? Mine is 16 years old but no issues with it
If it breaks and leaks, is it is a spot where there is a low point drain or will it flood? If floods, then I would probably replace.
 

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Hijacking a bit, but at what age would you replace a water heater if it's working fine? Mine is 16 years old but no issues with it
The way I've always dealt with them, is when they've got to that point, I just set aside funds and timeline to replace it. I'd rather have it replaced on my timeline rather than doing it in a hurry when no one has any hot water.
 

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Just an aside to confuse things, we did a new build in 1995 and installed a geothermal heating/ac system. Part of the mostly unmentioned efficiency is that hot water is a byproduct and diverted to storage in the water heater. Just the two of us in the home but have an 80 gallon (electric) water heater knowing that it is cheaper to store hot water than produce it, and sources say that up tto 50% of our hot water is (byproduct) produced by the heating/ac..

We used our old water heater upon original install and it failed shortly thereafter primarily because of well-water usage, which was replaced with rural water in '98. If I remember correctly, our county REC was in a rebate program for all-electric homes at the time and they supplied the 80 gallon electric at no charge--and still working.

Power outages are another subject, but I take great comfort with no gas (Natural or Propane) entering the house.
 

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If it breaks and leaks, is it is a spot where there is a low point drain or will it flood? If floods, then I would probably replace.
The floor slopes into a drain where it sits, so I'm not too concerned about it flooding
 

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Replaced a 32 year old electric water heater last year! Still working but figured I got most of the "goody" out of it. The old heater had a glass lined tank. Plumber said 10 to 15 years is the norm on today's models.
 

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I have a 20+ year old gas tank heater now and I'm wondering if I should replace it ahead of some kind of failure... If the failure is gas-related, it could be dangerous. If it's just tank-related, that's not really a biggie since there's a drain right next to it.
 

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I have a 20+ year old gas tank heater now and I'm wondering if I should replace it ahead of some kind of failure... If the failure is gas-related, it could be dangerous. If it's just tank-related, that's not really a biggie since there's a drain right next to it.
Main thing to check periodically is if your relief valve works.
 

cydnote

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Main thing to check periodically is if your relief valve works.
Part of the conundrum is that most of the newer stuff doesn't seem to have the longevity of the older. Replaced the washing machine on the main floor twice since our build and the old machine from our previous home is still functioning in the basement. The old one is used mainly for rugs, heavily soiled work clothes, etc. while the main floor one is used primarily for finer things/lighter loads.
I've adopted a policy of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
 

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I have a 20+ year old gas tank heater now and I'm wondering if I should replace it ahead of some kind of failure... If the failure is gas-related, it could be dangerous. If it's just tank-related, that's not really a biggie since there's a drain right next to it.

If your heater has a manual light pilot off the valve, if that were to malfunction there might be a trace of gas come from that. If that were to happen you should have a gas shut off valve on the gas line not far upstream from the valve. You will know when it goes out because no pilot, no flame, no hot water.

If it's an electric pilot, then the chances of a gas leak are very, very low. The valve just malfunctions and you either get a new valve, or a new heater. And with your heater being that old.....getting a new tank would be the smart move.
 
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I'm very happy to hear this. We just bought a new house and I have no clue (besides being cheap) that they installed an electric water heater instead of gas. From what I read online, electric is going to be more expensive?
Gas is cheaper on day-to-day basis but will be replacing it 6-9 years. Tankless needs ongoing maintenance(yearly) to get the full life out of it and can be very expensive for repairs. Electric day-to-day cost will be higher but it will run for easily 15+ years. You can also just replace parts on a electric water heater very straightforward and easily available. Just pulled one of a property that was 23 years old and only did it because the bottom was rusting out.
 
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Hijacking a bit, but at what age would you replace a water heater if it's working fine? Mine is 16 years old but no issues with it

If it's not broke don't mess with it. IMHO.
My furnace is way old, but my opinion is works fine and it is simple to work on why put in one that is expensive and hard to work on. Also my hot water heater is pretty old also.
 

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I talked to a couple plumbers and they said I would be hard pressed to find a plumber that has a tankless water heater.
 
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I must be in the minority but I really liked our gas tankless water heater. We travel a lot and never worried about wasting energy, it takes up very little space, we had limitless hot water and we had no issues with heat or pressure when running multiple water applications at the same time. It was also scorching hot, I had to dial it back quite a bit. It was significantly more expensive but it came with the house and I didn't have to pay for it.

We're back on a tank heater and we occasionally run out of hot water. I really dislike that.
 

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After eight years the cheap water heater installed in this newly built house failed. I replaced it with a tankless water heater, and aside from hot water taking a few more seconds to reach the showers, I think this was a good investment. Haven't done the analysis of what it's costing me compared to the old water heater, but I'm sold on this. A big advantage is that one can take a shower, run the dishwasher and do laundry at the same time. The hot water keeps on coming.
I must be in the minority but I really liked our gas tankless water heater. We travel a lot and never worried about wasting energy, it takes up very little space, we had limitless hot water and we had no issues with heat or pressure when running multiple water applications at the same time. It was also scorching hot, I had to dial it back quite a bit. It was significantly more expensive but it came with the house and I didn't have to pay for it.

We're back on a tank heater and we occasionally run out of hot water. I really dislike that.
Limitless hot water is the huge advantage of a tankless water heater. No pressure issues or energy wasting with tankless. A few dollars more than a tank, but I like the change.
 
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Our gas tank heater started failing (thankfully) somewhat gradually in fall 2020. I replaced it with the tankless gas model in stock at Menards. The tanker was 7-9 years old (I can't recall). This model was pretty small but has been no problem supporting our one bathroom plus the dishwasher and whatever sink we are using. The only downside is getting used to that one bathroom faucet farthest away taking a little long to give hot water -- but the tub in the same bath heats up quickly since there's more flow.

I've never put pen to paper if we are saving any money overall, but frankly I don't care. The quiet advantage we have to never run out of hot water is a real premium. If anything I have to kick my teenage boys out of the shower because they will camp in there if I let them.

Frankly my guess is that I should be able to milk far more than 7-9 years out of this thing, since I don't have to worry about keeping a huge tank of water hot all the time.

That and I never have to think about a tank full of hot water sitting in my basement, especially when we're not home and not even using it. Given a choice, I'll always pick tankless gas for hot water. I don't think it's even close.
 

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I talked to a couple plumbers and they said I would be hard pressed to find a plumber that has a tankless water heater.
Some years ago when my tank heater went out I was set on tankless. The plumber talked me out of it, even though he said it meant significantly more $ in his pocket. Then that was all reinforced when I talked to some friends that went to tankless too.