"Northwestern hoops seek United Center date".. Why not Iowa State?

[DBQ]

This FIB's gotta be trolling, right? Right?

Northwestern athletics are a joke. IF they really are the "top brand" in Chicagoland basketball, then Chicagoland basketball must be on a new level of pathetic.

 

[WillieWildcat]

The B12 schedule is a full 10 team round robin, has been for a couple years now. So B12 schedule (9) + Iowa = 10.

In terms of UNI, that's the problem that was created with the B10 making the move away from FCS games. For the most part, FCS v BCS opponents are a regional thing. Outside of the B10, you can maybe make an argument for Mizzou, KSU and Kansas being possibilities, but they wouldn't have any pressure from their regents to make it happen. If anything they have their own in state FCS teams to subsidize.

It's all spit balling on my part, but being that ISU, Iowa and UNI all share the same board, it's hard to not see it happening.

Foot. Mouth. I forgot about the 9 game Big 12 schedule. I think you guys would be better off playing NU than Io_a. Io_a's offense hasn't been updated since the cheap shot artist Fry came to town decades ago. At least if you played NU you would see a mobile QB and hurry up offense to get you ready for conference play.

 

[WillieWildcat]

This FIB's gotta be trolling, right? Right?

Northwestern athletics are a joke. IF they really are the "top brand" in Chicagoland basketball, then Chicagoland basketball must be on a new level of pathetic.

Look at the programs in Chicagoland. DePaul. Stinks. Loyola. Hasn't been relevant in decades. UIC. Awful. Expand out a little and maybe add NIU and Valpo. Both dog crap. Once you get into Marquette, U of I and IU, you are not in Chicagoland anymore.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Sorry for the misunderstanding - I meant teams that are in actually Chicagoland. I agree that there are a lot more Indiana or Illinois fans in Chicago than Northwestern fans. Nothing sucks more than watching the arena get painted orange or crimson when those teams come to town. Michigan suddenly has a lot of fans, too. That's probably a function of the economy in the Detroit area, though. The UM grads end up moving to Chicago.

OK, now I understand. And yes, I have come across a lot Michigan fans the last couple of years too.

Not to intentionally deviate from the basketball talk, but what do you folks think of a football series with Northwestern? Obviously, the next few years are already booked and we have some good non-con games including with Cal, Stanford and Notre Dame. With the BCS shifting around, I think some schools are looking to play BCS level opponents to prep for the season but very few teams want to go be sacrifical lambs for the likes of Alabama or USC.

Given that the stadiums are relatively equal size and the programs are both trending north, would you guys be interested in a home and home with Northwestern? One important thing is that we have a really tough time getting people to go to games in September, so I'd like to see us start playing some more "local" teams (instead of teams like Syracuse or Vanderbilt) who can bring a bunch of fans. Do you guys think Iowa State would bring at least 8,000 fans or is the drive too far? I would guess Northwestern would only bring maybe 1,000 to Iowa State (we travel like crap).

I would like a series with Northwestern. And no, ISU wouldn't have a problem getting 8K+ to that game. It's only a short 5 hour drive from central Iowa (about the same as ISU to KSU) and there are tons of ISU alumni living in Chicagoland.

 

[DBQ]

Look at the programs in Chicagoland. DePaul. Stinks. Loyola. Hasn't been relevant in decades. UIC. Awful. Expand out a little and maybe add NIU and Valpo. Both dog crap. Once you get into Marquette, U of I and IU, you are not in Chicagoland anymore.

But Illinois is a bigger brand than all of those crappy teams (including Northwestern) put together in Chicagoland. Who gives a crap if they're actually located in Chicagoland?

 

[WillieWildcat]

But Illinois is a bigger brand than all of those crappy teams (including Northwestern) put together in Chicagoland. Who gives a crap if they're actually located in Chicagoland?

Which is precisely why I agreed with someone when they suggested a game against U of I at the UC would be better for ISU's brand than a game against Northwestern at the UC. Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were younger?

 

[DBQ]

Which is precisely why I agreed with someone when they suggested a game against U of I at the UC would be better for ISU's brand than a game against Northwestern at the UC. Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were younger?

So then what exactly is your point by claiming that Northwestern is the "best brand" in the Chicagoland area, and why should we care?

 

[WillieWildcat]

So then what exactly is your point by claiming that Northwestern is the "best brand" in the Chicagoland area, and why should we care?

U of I isn't in the Chicagoland area. It is downstate. Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

 

[DBQ]

U of I isn't in the Chicagoland area. It is downstate. Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

And Northwestern's still second-fiddle (at best) to a team that's not even located within the city. Again, your point?

 

[WillieWildcat]

And Northwestern's still second-fiddle (at best) to a team that's not even located within the city. Again, your point?

My point is that if you want to maximize exposure in a UC game, you should play the diploma mill from Champaign. But in terms of local teams, Northwestern is the top brand right now. I clarified that to someone above. He managed to understand this distinction.

 

[DBQ]

My point is that if you want to maximize exposure in a UC game, you should play the diploma mill from Champaign. But in terms of local teams, Northwestern is the top brand right now. I clarified that to someone above. He managed to understand this distinction.

Guess what? Nobody cares. But thanks for the story?

 

[WillieWildcat]

Guess what? Nobody cares. But thanks for the story?

Obviously you care.

 

[cyclonedave25]

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[Cyinthenorth]

From what I can tell, Chicago kids don't really want to live in boring Champaign-Urbana and play for the Illini. Thus leaving the Chicago recruiting market wide open to just about anyone who wants to do some cherry-picking. Problem for ISU is, these same kids who don't want to move to rural Champaign aren't going to want to move to a different state's version of Champaign (Ames). The problem for NW is a lot of these kids can't meet academic standards to get into their school.

 

[brokenloginagain]

chicago is sort of a mirage in my view - yes the talent pool is deep, but you're competing against the entire big 10, plus Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, Louisville, and Marquette. i see why fans are always infatuated, but for me, no thanks.

 

[BryceC]

My point is that if you want to maximize exposure in a UC game, you should play the diploma mill from Champaign. But in terms of local teams, Northwestern is the top brand right now. I clarified that to someone above. He managed to understand this distinction.

Northwestern's competition is a bunch of 300+ rpi teams from conferences nobody has ever heard of. While this is true it's absolutely pointless as a distinction.

 

[boone7247]

My point is that if you want to maximize exposure in a UC game, you should play the diploma mill from Champaign. But in terms of local teams, Northwestern is the top brand right now. I clarified that to someone above. He managed to understand this distinction.

You are right Northwestern is the biggest name, currently in the chicagoland area. However, U of I, Notre Dame, Purdue, Iowa and Michigan all have more fans in Chicago than Northwestern. I am sure Wisconsin, MSU, and Indiana could give it a run for its money. If you are ISU you aren't coming to Chicago to impress people by playing Northwestern, you would need to play U of I or Notre dame to get the towns attention.

Also DePaul if they would commit to basketball would have far and away a better basketball brand than Northwestern, at least they have history. And for that matter Loyola has the only national championship of any IL schools.