NOTEBOOK: On Jaylin Noel’s near TD on a kick return that was called back and more from ISU’s 28-21 loss to Kansas

[Didley]

He did blow the call bad, and it obviously was the wrong call.

However, CMC should be smart enough to know that it cannot be reviewed. Did he really question in his presser why it wasn’t reviewed?

I thought the call on the field started as marking him out at the 1. And that the booth called it back to the 30 as part of a booth review or something. But after seeing the video i realized that it was the ref on the field that made the call. So now it makes more sense.

 

[MartyFine]

The true incompetence of that officiating crew was demonstrated by the incomplete pass being called a fumble and the review

 

[Cyhig]

Yeah, the whole "don't blame the refs" and "blame the ISU execution" ideology is BS. We did execute. We executed enough to get the ball down to the 2. We executed enough to rip the ball away from the RB and take it to the house. We executed enough to get a 3rd down stop before a bogus PI call extended their drive. Luckily, they missed the FG. Why do we have to execute SO much more than the teams we play to "deserve" to win? We shouldn't have to be 15 points better than a team to take them to overtime.

There is some merit to it though. Iowa had a punt return called back. They still only had to go 20-25 yards in a minute with one timeout to kick a game winning field goal. They didn’t execute.

Iowa State still got the ball in great field position. They easily could had scored, especially against the Kansas defense. They didn’t execute.

Remember the taunting penalty a couple years ago? Do you remember what happened in that same drive? X still got a touchdown. They executed

Was this play by Noel a bad call? Absolutely. There were quite a few bad calls, some for each team (although ISU seemed to get more bad calls than Kansas). But great teams fight through bad calls

 

[TrailCy]

Basically a ref can blow their whistle whenever they don't want a big play to happen. It's *********.

 

[2forISU]

An obviously putrid call. But we still got it at the 31 and didn’t score. Our lack of execution cost us that game, not any individual call.

Don’t disagree, but your odds increase dramatically of scoring points on the 3 vs 31

 

[TrailCy]

The true incompetence of that officiating crew was demonstrated by the incomplete pass being called a fumble and the review

Guy next to me asked if that would've been caught would they call it a fumble recovery or a completion?

 

[CoachHines3]

makes my blood pressure instantly rise.

 

[Cyhig]

He did blow the call bad, and it obviously was the wrong call.

However, CMC should be smart enough to know that it cannot be reviewed. Did he really question in his presser why it wasn’t reviewed?

I think he was trying to say you let the play go and review it if needed once the play is over. The only time an official should blow their whistle in that situation is if the runner was clearly out of bounds. That’s what I think CMC was trying to say

 

[CY88CE11]

There is some merit to it though. Iowa had a punt return called back. They still only had to go 20-25 yards in a minute with one timeout to kick a game winning field goal. They didn’t execute.

Iowa State still got the ball in great field position. They easily could had scored, especially against the Kansas defense. They didn’t execute.

Remember the taunting penalty a couple years ago? Do you remember what happened in that same drive? X still got a touchdown. They executed

Was this play by Noel a bad call? Absolutely. There were quite a few bad calls, some for each team (although ISU seemed to get more bad calls than Kansas). But great teams fight through bad calls

Except Iowa's was the exact right call. They played well enough to have a short field to win and didn't. We played well enough to get the ball at the 2, then had that taken away from us for no reason. That's deflating. I'm not surprised we went backwards.

 

[Cyhig]

Except Iowa's was the exact right call. They played well enough to have a short field to win and didn't. We played well enough to get the ball at the 2, then had that taken away from us for no reason. That's deflating. I'm not surprised we went backwards.

I agree. The Iowa call was correct, the ISU call was incorrect. Sure it was deflating. It was deflating when X was called for taunting, but ISU still got a touchdown on that drive

 

[FerShizzle]

That old ****** had run far enough and was tired, so he blew the whistle. I’ve seen this in basketball many times.

 

[Isualum13]

makes my blood pressure instantly rise.

That douchecanoe couldnt even see the foot that supposedly stepped out. The Kansas dude was in the way.

 

[CY88CE11]

I agree. The Iowa call was correct, the ISU call was incorrect. Sure it was deflating. It was deflating when X was called for taunting, but ISU still got a touchdown on that drive

Why is the standard that we should have to overcome atrocious officiating? Why can't the standard be acknowledging it was atrocious and improving it? Woody talks every week about hidden yards. I think last night's game creates a new category: ref yards. The number of yards ISU had to overcome to be even with KU was over 50. And that doesn't consider down and distance or scoring opportunity.

 

[CycloneVet]

An obviously putrid call. But we still got it at the 31 and didn’t score. Our lack of execution cost us that game, not any individual call.

scoring from the 31 is way different than the 3. It was inexcusable

 

[SMG]

These officials were just plain bad. This was just the worst call of many bad calls last night.

 

[Cyhig]

Why is the standard that we should have to overcome atrocious officiating? Why can't the standard be acknowledging it was atrocious and improving it? Woody talks every week about hidden yards. I think last night's game creates a new category: ref yards. The number of yards ISU had to overcome to be even with KU was over 50. And that doesn't consider down and distance or scoring opportunity.

You think atrocious officiating is unique to Iowa State? Bad calls occur every single game, even in the NFL. Iowa State still had great field position, yet couldn’t take advantage. A previous Iowa State team used a similar situation to say “screw you refs. We’re going to feed X the ball so he can get the touchdown he actually scored”. Last night’s Iowa State team played the “woe is me” card. Kansas won’t feel sorry for a call they know they were beneficiaries, just like Iowa State won’t feel sorry for the opposition when Iowa State is the beneficiary of a bad call.

Stop blaming officials. The officials didn’t lose the game. The poorly played first half was the reason they lost. The crowd was amped up. You can’t go 3 and out and let Kansas score a TD on their opening drive, even as they faced and converted a 4th and 8 (I think it was 8) on that drive.

 

[madguy30]

An obviously putrid call. But we still got it at the 31 and didn’t score. Our lack of execution cost us that game, not any individual call.

At that point in the game I'm not confident in ISU punching it in even from the 3.

But that was a terrible call. Let it play out and review it if there's any question since he was close to the sideline. If it's determined somehow that he stepped out barley, so be it.

 

[acoustimac]

And the official was right there and clearly blew the call.

 

[CYDJ]

There is some merit to it though. Iowa had a punt return called back. They still only had to go 20-25 yards in a minute with one timeout to kick a game winning field goal. They didn’t execute.

Iowa State still got the ball in great field position. They easily could had scored, especially against the Kansas defense. They didn’t execute.

Remember the taunting penalty a couple years ago? Do you remember what happened in that same drive? X still got a touchdown. They executed

Was this play by Noel a bad call? Absolutely. There were quite a few bad calls, some for each team (although ISU seemed to get more bad calls than Kansas). But great teams fight through bad calls

So what you are saying is great teams can overcome the officiating incompetence . Do they explain that at the captains meeting at midfield before the game? "We're going to screw you 4 or 5 times today men, so you'll have to account for being at least 7-10 points better than the other team. Sorry, that's just what you'll have to do."

And what happens when you have 2 average teams out there OR you DO something great to overcome the last stupid calls and they **** that up too? How many things do you have to overcome after overcoming them?

You blaming ANYONE for not coming away from that return without a TD other than the refs is ********. Plain ********.

 

[NoCreativity]

Iowa State still had great field position, yet couldn’t take advantage

Yeah, if we still had guys like Breece Hall and Brock Purdy. This offense was struggling last night so they needed all the field position it could get. 31 yards seemed like a huge deal at the time and it probably cost us a TD.