If its the play I'm thinking about, White and Allen were both there and watched the ball go...almost seemed like they thought it was going to be a back-court violation.
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If its the play I'm thinking about, White and Allen were both there and watched the ball go...almost seemed like they thought it was going to be a back-court violation.
Based on what? Before last night, he was 2 for 6 from 3 point range. Prior to that, in 2 years at SIU, he was a total of 3 for 19. Yeah, that is a great 3 point shooter, huh?
I'm not concerned about Royce yet. Save some energy big fella when you're coming off puking your guts out for a few days. And having Royce as the press breaker occasionally is brilliant. Let the opposition pick their poison. Wanna leave a guard on him to try and pick his pocket? Fine, that's an easy pass out into a guard/forward mismatch on the other end of the floor. Want to try and use a forward to press him? That's fine, he'll burn you.
And Chris Allen makes me want to tear my hair out. Royce shouldn't touch the ball when the other team is going to foul unless you're at 4 in a 5 second count and everyone else is blanketed. Someone also needs to go over shooting in balance with him. He's a solid jump shooter and terrible trying to fade away or float sideways.
And Chris Allen makes me want to tear my hair out. Royce shouldn't touch the ball when the other team is going to foul unless you're at 4 in a 5 second count and everyone else is blanketed. Someone also needs to go over shooting in balance with him. He's a solid jump shooter and terrible trying to fade away or float sideways.
Agree on all accounts. If he's going to get 15-20 FTA/game, he's got to get to 70%+ from the line. ISU isn't good enough to cover for a guy getting that many FTAs and making less than 50%. Unless you have Laker-grade talent (relatively speaking), very few teams can make up for Shaq-like accuracy from a guy that is going to get a bunch of FTAs.
Forcing bad shots early in the shot clock with a big lead. The shots the other guys were taking, including Booker's 3s were all pretty much wide open looks or within the flow of moving the ball in the offense.
His shot selection is horrible. With McGee, Royce, Babb and Scotty we frankly need him to be a ball handler and spot up shooter waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than we need him to be a guy who creates his own shot. So far he seems most interested in creating his own shot.
I think Royce brought the ball up a few times last night because it was the best matchup against their man to man full court press. When they press like that who is their best defensive players to guard 90 feet from the hoop? Their guards, which is a weakness if ours. So why not let Royce bring it up against a 6'10 guy who can't guard 90 feet from the hoop?
Do I like it? No. But it is a better matchup for us if they man to man press.
But if he is shooting that many times that means that the other teams big men are on the bench in foul trouble. That's huge especially for us as our low post defesne stinks and if their best inside players aren't in, that a positive.
Royce needs to shoot better free throws but him getting to the line anyway is huge.
Does anyone else think he has a really good looking shot at the line? He simply has no routine.
I think jsb has it right on Royce a few pages earlier. I don't think he's lazy and I don't think it's lack of hustle, he's playing with an anxiety disorder. That could include a lot of things and I'm not trying to play doctor but watching him makes me think of attention deficit disorder. One of my sons played with the disorder and at times he looked lazy or "out of it" but it wasn't for lack of effort. There were just times when he didn't maintain concentration and it looked like lack of effort. Royce just seems to be mentally unique or different than most players, and it's something I'm more than happy to live with to have his incredible talent on the floor. It could be why Fred may deal with him differently than other players, and a good coach knows when to do that.
I dunno, the flow of his shot isn't there which is part of why he's so wildly inconsistent. Last night he was (understandably) using no legs towards the end and he was all over the place.
His form is solid though. He just doesn't have routine which like you said hurts his flow. He is short on most his shots but the aim is there. It's not like he is shooting bricks off the side of the rim
Royce's free throws seem a lot like Carlos Boozer's in the NBA who has a very similar build.
They both shoot a really high arch shot, but when they miss they're painfully short or long, Boozer airballs free throws too often as well. When they miss it looks horrible but when they make it looks perfect. As ugly as it looks Boozer is usually around a 70% ft shooter with the same infuriating type of missed free throws, so it gives me hope Royce could at least get into the high 60s for ISU.
Bet your relationship with your old girlfriend didn't seem so bad look back on it 8 years later. Probably remember her being hotter than she really is too.
White is still raw give the guy some credit for having a solid foundation on which to build his game.
Clones played tough last night. The energy was there and the guys put it together to get a W. There is no such thing as a bad confrence win. Sometime you just got to do what needs to be done to come out on top.
The team is starting to gel a bit at the right time lets be pumped about that.
Go Cyclones.
I agree on both accounts. For coming off the flu and in the first season of really playing major conference basketball, Royce is playing well. Unfortunately, after 6 plus years of disappointment and in desire of an All-American to lead us back, Royce tends to get judged on a tough rubric.
Chris Allen would be good if constrained as a role player.
I like the idea of him causing their bigs to foul him but yes he needs to make the FTs or finish better.
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Yes, and I've been saying it since the first game. His touch is very soft and he has a very nice release. It's almost always straight on but when he misses it's always short.
