***Official 2018-19 Transfer Thread***

[ISUChippewa]

They should all sit out a transfer year. That would put an end to the charade. I have a lot more respect for Mike Daum's choice than Mike Mooney. We shall see which benefited himself the most.

I have a lot of respect for Daum for staying, but he and his team lost to a pretty bad team in their conference tournament that they had no business losing to which kept them out of the tournament, while Mooney will be playing for a national championship tonight.

Who knows what the future holds for either of them, but I would say Mooney made a pretty good decision.

 

[srjclone]

The subject is transfer thread. These three are prime examples of why a change is coming. And stop the straw man 'hate' crap, please. I reserve 'hate' for cancer, Hitler, and the like.

You are saying you don't respect a persons decision... One that has gotten said person into a National Championship. THis is a thread to discuss potential transfers that Iowa State may be targeting. Not to air out our issues with the NCAAs deficiencies as an organization, or the annoyances of millennials not being able to pick a school and stick with it.

Sorry that the grad transfer rule annoys you as much as it seems to, but not sure what you expect anyone here to contribute that you haven't already made up in your mind.

 

[Halincandenza]

The subject is transfer thread. These three are prime examples of why a change is coming. And stop the straw man 'hate' crap, please. I reserve 'hate' for cancer, Hitler, and the like.

The change that is coming isn't one which you will like.

 

[heitclone]

UC Irvine starting 2 transfers must have really gotten to surly. Why don't you start a thread about it and leave this one for actual news about transfers. We all know how popular the surly threads are anyway, give the people what they want!

 

[CloniesForLife]

I fell into the trap of feeding the troll (I apologize) but let's just ignore Surly's outdated take and get this thread back on track. This is normally a good thread but is getting mucked up now.

 

[srjclone]

Agreed. Landers Nolley... go get that man Steve and James

 

[surly]

I know y'all want this to end because it, evidently, strikes too close to Ames, but here's an update. I'm sorry Matt Mooney is in the piece but I didn't write it.

The NCAA is considering a change to the graduate transfer rule, which currently lets players with an undergraduate degree transfer without sitting out a year and play at a new school using their final year of eligibility.

The new measure would strengthen the rule and put more of a focus on the student's academics. Colleges that accept graduate students would be required to give up a scholarship the next year if the transfer doesn't earn a degree within a year, according to The New York Times, meaning schools would essentially have to account for a scholarship on its roster for two seasons.


"I can tell you this much, I'm not going to finish mine in a year," Texas Tech guard Matt Mooney, who has taken advantage of the current graduate transfer rule, said. "It's a tough rule. I don't know how many graduate degrees finish in a year."

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...graduate-transfers/1bcu9cik1ph7s1d5neqnfy7j0j

 

[IndyClone15]

These are old tweets.

 

[Knownothing]

This is Mooney's third school. It's also Owens third school. If you find this a healthy situation, you find it different than me. Mike Daum stayed at SDSU. I believe his choice was admirable. He's better than either of the TxT transfers. Again, that makes neither a bad person (in my view) only my assessment of which choice(s) was preferable.

Ironically Mike Daum didn't get to play in the NCAA tourney this year and got his coach promoted to a new school where he took the money and ran. So basically thinks to Daum, he stayed so that he could help his coach go to a new school and make a few million dollars more. Maybe Daum has a girlfriend at SDSU and stayed for her. I don't think what he did was admirable. I think he liked the school he was at and wanted to be "The Man".

 

[TheHelgo]

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[jbindm]

These are old tweets.

Could be wrong, but I think they were posted just to illustrate that the current staff is familiar with the player.

 

[Sigmapolis]

@surly tried to hit me with his cane.

Which wouldn't have been bad.

Until he threw his dentures at me. Eww, slimy.

 

[surly]

@surly tried to hit me with his cane.

Which wouldn't have been bad.

Until he threw his dentures at me. Eww, slimy.

One of your better arguments, concise, thoughtful. Kudos, dude.

 

[Sigmapolis]

One of your better arguments, concise, thoughtful. Kudos, dude.

Somebody's tilted today.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I didn't say Mooney is a bad dude. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.

Maybe SD didn’t have the grad degree he wants to pursue?

 

[Cyclonepride]

I know y'all want this to end because it, evidently, strikes too close to Ames, but here's an update. I'm sorry Matt Mooney is in the piece but I didn't write it.

The NCAA is considering a change to the graduate transfer rule, which currently lets players with an undergraduate degree transfer without sitting out a year and play at a new school using their final year of eligibility.

The new measure would strengthen the rule and put more of a focus on the student's academics. Colleges that accept graduate students would be required to give up a scholarship the next year if the transfer doesn't earn a degree within a year, according to The New York Times, meaning schools would essentially have to account for a scholarship on its roster for two seasons.


"I can tell you this much, I'm not going to finish mine in a year," Texas Tech guard Matt Mooney, who has taken advantage of the current graduate transfer rule, said. "It's a tough rule. I don't know how many graduate degrees finish in a year."

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...graduate-transfers/1bcu9cik1ph7s1d5neqnfy7j0j

This post will end the discussion. If you would like to start your own thread, I'm quite sure you know how...

 

[jbindm]

I believe there was an issue with his ACT? IIRC there was a claim that he had somebody else take his ACT for him, but I thought that was cleared up. From what I can tell from the article I read he was indefinitely suspended and it didn't go into detail as to why, so people assumed it was the academic stuff.

There's some really weird stuff happening there. According to his high school coach the NCAA was suspicious of his high ACT score relative to his GPA. So he had to retake the ACT in early November and when the NCAA still hadn't cleared him to play in January, Buzz Williams announced that he would sit the rest of the season.

Nolley's high school coach also said that he expects Nolley to apply for a waiver that would make him eligible to play the 19-20 season.

So there's some uncertainty as to when the kid would actually be able to play, but he'd be worth it as a sit one/play three(I think?) transfer. Very talented.

 

[srjclone]

There's some really weird stuff happening there. According to his high school coach the NCAA was suspicious of his high ACT score relative to his GPA. So he had to retake the ACT in early November and when the NCAA still hadn't cleared him to play in January, Buzz Williams announced that he would sit the rest of the season.

Nolley's high school coach also said that he expects Nolley to apply for a waiver that would make him eligible to play the 19-20 season.

So there's some uncertainty as to when the kid would actually be able to play, but he'd be worth it as a sit one/play three(I think?) transfer. Very talented.

that's right, thanks for the clarification. But I agree, there's no doubt you take that kid. I'd imagine at worst he'd be a sit one/play three guy

 

[jbindm]

that's right, thanks for the clarification. But I agree, there's no doubt you take that kid. I'd imagine at worst he'd be a sit one/play three guy

The only downside would be that there's no way to know if/when he'd be cleared to play. That would suck to get him and then have to wait another six months for the NCAA to check his retake score and then evaluate his waiver.

What's messed up is that (again, according to his high school coach) Nolley was on track to make the honor roll during the fall semester at Virginia Tech. At least on the surface the kid's test score seems to be legit.

 

[Gunnerclone]

There's some really weird stuff happening there. According to his high school coach the NCAA was suspicious of his high ACT score relative to his GPA. So he had to retake the ACT in early November and when the NCAA still hadn't cleared him to play in January, Buzz Williams announced that he would sit the rest of the season.

Nolley's high school coach also said that he expects Nolley to apply for a waiver that would make him eligible to play the 19-20 season.

So there's some uncertainty as to when the kid would actually be able to play, but he'd be worth it as a sit one/play three(I think?) transfer. Very talented.

Geez glad I didn’t go to d1 out of HS I would have been screwed. 2.3 GPA with a 27 ACT probably would have thrown up some red flags. They probably wouldn’t have loved my explanation that I only went to class 3 or 4 total days a week.