***Official 2019-2020 Transfer Thread***

[LLCoolCY]

We should always be looking.

I doubt we take anything other than a pg though, which will be tough to find

Yep, no reason not to keep checking the portal and see if a high level player was to become available. Though I am optimistic Harris and Hinson will get their waivers it is far from a given so if someone immediately eligible does become available it could make a lot of sense. plus while the roster looks pretty set in attrition can happen after next year having a sit out with a year in the system is preferable to a freshman in many cases.

 

[jcyclonee]

Maybe he could show us the way to make 3 pointers consistently. Yes. That was a terrible one. Just imagine it in the sound of a talking guitar.

 

[cykadelic2]

I was sad about missing Gach but I think Hinson is a more complete player and will add more than Gach. I’m totally satisfied with who we got. I think we will bank the last one but who knows

Gach and DeJulius were, by far, the most disappointing misses since they filled the most glaring roster gap. It still hasn't been adequately filled which gives the transfer class so far no more than a C grade.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Gach and DeJulius were, by far, the most disappointing misses since they filled the most glaring roster gap. It still hasn't been adequately filled which gives the transfer class so far no more than a C grade.

Interesting. I am curious why? Both were sit out transfers and replaced by Hinson and Harris.
Gach is the likeliest to get the waiver but far from a given and if he doesn’t he may just go pro never to step into Hilton.
David vs Tyler is a wash in my eyes both top 100 ranked and sixth men/spot starters for P5 programs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff actually prefers Harris.

 

[cykadelic2]

Interesting. I am curious why? Both were sit out transfers and replaced by Hinson and Harris.
Gach is the likeliest to get the waiver but far from a given and if he doesn’t he may just go pro never to step into Hilton.
David vs Tyler is a wash in my eyes both top 100 ranked and sixth men/spot starters for P5 programs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff actually prefers Harris.

Harris at 5-9 is going to be a probable liability defensively which gives DeJulius a clear edge on that end of the court, even at 6-0. Gach is by far better than both of those guys and addressed the facilitator gap moreso than both. Harris isn't ranked high at all on both the Stadium and ESPN transfer rankings and that is far more relevant at this point than any HS recruiting rankings.

 

[RustShack]

It’s interesting how caught up people are in the whole facilitator aspect, even though our offense was fine last year even without Halliburton and will be better this year.

 

[Cyforce]

Interesting. I am curious why? Both were sit out transfers and replaced by Hinson and Harris.
Gach is the likeliest to get the waiver but far from a given and if he doesn’t he may just go pro never to step into Hilton.
David vs Tyler is a wash in my eyes both top 100 ranked and sixth men/spot starters for P5 programs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff actually prefers Harris.

NCAA is going to make a statement. If you are leaving Mississippi you'll get a waiver.

 

[Statefan10]

Harris at 5-9 is going to be a probable liability defensively which gives DeJulius a clear edge on that end of the court, even at 6-0. Gach is by far better than both of those guys and addressed the facilitator gap moreso than both. Harris isn't ranked high at all on both the Stadium and ESPN transfer rankings and that is far more relevant at this point than any HS recruiting rankings.

Gach would've been a wonderful get, but it's not a miss when a kid from Austin, Minnesota goes to Minnesota.. And no, this off season absolutely has not been a C grade.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Harris at 5-9 is going to be a probable liability defensively which gives DeJulius a clear edge on that end of the court, even at 6-0. Gach is by far better than both of those guys and addressed the facilitator gap moreso than both. Harris isn't ranked high at all on both the Stadium and ESPN transfer rankings and that is far more relevant at this point than any HS recruiting rankings.

I think our opinions differ then on Harris vs DeJulius, I wanted DD and think he'll be a solid PG but he hasn't shown anything better than being average starting level. I will won't call harris a defensive liability due to 3 inches, he knows he's shorter but is a bull dog on that end. With the current infux 6-6 wings will help limit that exposure.

I agree Both would be the additional ball handler the team needs but Hinson can handle some not initiate the offense but diverse enough to space and play in the post. plus waivers pending I am much more confident ISU will get 2 years of Hinson at above Big 12 level over the chance of 1 of Gach. It'll be fun to see how both scenarios work out over the season

 

[Psiclone]

I think our opinions differ then on Harris vs DeJulius, I wanted DD and think he'll be a solid PG but he hasn't shown anything better than being average starting level. I will won't call harris a defensive liability due to 3 inches, he knows he's shorter but is a bull dog on that end. With the current infux 6-6 wings will help limit that exposure.

I agree Both would be the additional ball handler the team needs but Hinson can handle some not initiate the offense but diverse enough to space and play in the post. plus waivers pending I am much more confident ISU will get 2 years of Hinson at above Big 12 level over the chance of 1 of Gach. It'll be fun to see how both scenarios work out over the season

Tre is the same height as Jevon Carter who didn't exactly suck considering he was defensive POY in the Big XII for 2 years.

 

[CyPunch]

Gach and DeJulius were, by far, the most disappointing misses since they filled the most glaring roster gap. It still hasn't been adequately filled which gives the transfer class so far no more than a C grade.

Harris, JCL, Hinson = B+

I've been vocal about being most disappointed about the DeJulius miss as I think we were extremely close to securing a commitment there and that would of been a huge get. He would of been a great culture fit, has multiple years of eligibility left, and would of filled a direct need as a true PG. DeJulius over Harris would of made it an A+ imo.

It's hard to understate how big of a late add Blake Hinson is though. He has experience starting on an NCAA tournament team as a freshmen and should continue to improve offensively in a system that better fits his game at ISU.

 

[cykadelic2]

Gach would've been a wonderful get, but it's not a miss when a kid from Austin, Minnesota goes to Minnesota.. And no, this off season absolutely has not been a C grade.

LOL, that is quite the silly justification.

Gach was the biggest miss out of all of the other PGs/Facilitators that were missed this Spring to fill, by far, the roster's biggest gap. Harris was a fallback option all along to fill that roster gap and he was clearly being recruited over for next season with the pursuit of Gach. And that is justification for the C grade.

Now if Harris, a 5-9 backup SG from the AAC, was the staff's #1 choice this Spring to fill the PG gap, then the program is truly hosed.

 

[Statefan10]

LOL, that is quite the silly justification.

Gach was the biggest miss out of all of the other PGs/Facilitators that were missed this Spring. Harris was a fallback option all along to fill that roster gap and he was clearly being recruited over for next season with the pursuit of Gach. And that is justification for the C grade.

Now if Harris, a 5-9 backup SG from the AAC, was the staff's #1 choice this Spring to fill the PG gap, then the program is truly hosed.

So let me get this straight, if you don't land a player, it's a miss?? We were told we weren't even in Gach's top 2! Also, we recruited Tyler Harris heavily out of high school and he's quite talented. We took him because we didn't have a PG issue last year, we had a talent issue. You take the best players, and figure it out from there. And no, Harris was not the #1 choice to fill the PG slot, but just because you don't get your #1 choice doesn't mean you failed or did a poor job? We offer highly rated guys all the time coming out of high school, but we didn't miss on them because they chose another school.

Your justification for the C grade is because you personally don't like how things are currently going with the program and know matter who we got, you would've pissed in everyone's Wheaties. This was a very good spring for Prohm and the team on paper, so we're just going to have to wait and see how the chips fall with the waivers as well as see how the team looks come November.

 

[LLCoolCY]

LOL, that is quite the silly justification.

Gach was the biggest miss out of all of the other PGs/Facilitators that were missed this Spring to fill, by far, the roster's biggest gap. Harris was a fallback option all along to fill that roster gap and he was clearly being recruited over for next season with the pursuit of Gach. And that is justification for the C grade.

Now if Harris, a 5-9 backup SG from the AAC, was the staff's #1 choice this Spring to fill the PG gap, then the program is truly hosed.

Wow... Harris wasn't a fall back once he entered the portal he committed just over a week and was the top PG target of the staff just 2 years ago. His stock may not be as high as then but Prohm believes in him and I trust his PG eval.

Both was pursued with 2 schollys open and told he'd get the opportunity facilitate true but that doesn't mean he'd be the PG as he could play 1-3 like Shayok did.

All this is assuming that Harris does get the waiver which I think too many feel he already has to be "recruited over". The staff wanted another potential option if it isn't granted.

 

[Drew0311]

Can someone explain to me why we are ranking David Dejuious so highly right now? When did he become a 5 star player. He averaged 7 points a year as a sophomore. I mean he would have been a good add for sure. However, let's quit acting like if we got him we would be the next big thing. Harris is just as solid and maybe even more dynamic.

 

[Statefan10]

Can someone explain to me why we are ranking David Dejuious so highly right now? When did he become a 5 star player. He averaged 7 points a year as a sophomore. I mean he would have been a good add for sure. However, let's quit acting like if we got him we would be the next big thing. Harris is just as solid and maybe even more dynamic.

I think Dejulius might've been a better true PG than Harris, but I honestly think Harris is a better basketball player.

 

[Tom Buch]

Recruiting grade this year overall is an B+.
We got 4 very good freshmen - class is rated highly nationally.
We got three good transfers with good P5 stats.
I would have loved to get Both and some others, but seriously - you can’t expect to get everyone you want.

 

[heitclone]

Can someone explain to me why we are ranking David Dejuious so highly right now? When did he become a 5 star player. He averaged 7 points a year as a sophomore. I mean he would have been a good add for sure. However, let's quit acting like if we got him we would be the next big thing. Harris is just as solid and maybe even more dynamic.

People are overthinking the PG need. If Prohm thought it was the be all end all, he would have gambled on a guy like Buggs. Idk who the guy dribbling the ball up the court will be but Bolton will have the ball in his hands more than anyone on the offensive end. I don't think what we will be trying to do offensively will look much different than last season when Bolton was running the show. The differences would be mostly positives like having other players capable of creating offense and knocking down shots. I'm not worried about PG play, I doubt Steve is either. I'd guess he's really happy with the 3 kids he brought in this spring.

 

[Statefan10]

People are overthinking the PG need. If Prohm thought it was the be all end all, he would have gambled on a guy like Buggs. Idk who the guy dribbling the ball up the court will be but Bolton will have the ball in his hands more than anyone on the offensive end. I don't think what we will be trying to do offensively will look much different than last season when Bolton was running the show. The differences would be mostly positives like having other players capable of creating offense and knocking down shots. I'm not worried about PG play, I doubt Steve is either. I'd guess he's really happy with the 3 kids he brought in this spring.

It seems like we have multiple guys that can beat their defender off the dribble, and we now have guys who have shot overall well in their college career from beyond the arc. We don't need a great playmaker to be a good team next year. We had the best playmaker maybe to ever play ball at Iowa State last year and we flat out stunk.

 

[Hayes30]

I don't grade a transfer class on who they miss on that seems silly. Just like a HS Class I grade them on who they actually get. I give this group of newcomers transfers and recruits an A/B+ depending in if Harris and Hinson get waivers.