***Official 2024 Transfer Thread***
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No, earlier it was determined that we will win every game by 90.
You should try understanding the discussion before responding. The post you’re quoting was pointing out a poster had resorted to a strawman, like you are seemingly wanting to do
But to your nonsense, Milan may have good odds to start, but he’s not a lock. The roster isn’t even known right now.
No one is a lock to start, although Lipsey will likely have the least amount of competition. The freshman version of Milan, which was good for a freshman but very average overall, certainly is not a lock to start if we add Hadley, Dailey, Heise, and Jackson, which was the original contention
Whether starting or not, Milan’s minutes will go down if those 4, or similar, are added. Particularly if Milan doesn’t improve. Anybody that suggest otherwise is completely clueless
Agree. Less minutes played only helps during crunch time on both offense and defense. The increased energy will on defense during the game will only wear down the other team more.
I feel like I'm living in a ******* twilight zone. I am taking issue with singling out Milan and the idea that his minutes will be cut and he'll be a bench player next year. That's not making **** up or putting words in someone's mouth. And yeah it's simple math, at current state the starters are KG, Lipsey, Jones, Milan, DJ. At current state if none of our remaining priority transfers hit, they all get 30 minutes a game. My best guess is the staff you prefer them all to be closer to 25 minutes a game. So that's at 125 minutes taken. That leaves roughly 75 minutes for the rest of the potential transfer and role players we already have on the team.
So yeah I take issue with anyone putting Milan's name in their mouth and talking about him like he's the weak link on the core 4 and not getting "starter" minutes next year.
Agree with you on this one. Anyone suggesting that Milan might move to the bench deserves an automatic ban. That's just flat out silly. Milan would also leave Ames so fast if we recruited someone to take his starting spot.
Strange thread. I trust TJ has a plan and will sort it all out.
Milan will start. Period. Like almost everybody his game has strengths and weaknesses. The offseason is to improve.
I do not accept that playing small ball is a given. I think that will be situational. Based upon game situation and matchups it may be the best option. But, there will be times where a bigger lineup is needed. IMHO - having options is highly desirable. My interpretation of our portal recruiting is to better create some options,.
Playing Milan at the 4 isn’t small ball.
It’s just ball. He is what you want in a 4 spot. He just needs to get stronger and work on rebounding. The guy is 6’8.
It’s just ball. He is what you want in a 4 spot. He just needs to get stronger and work on rebounding. The guy is 6’8.
He has an offseason to beef up. If he’s hitting the gym and taking steroids, I mean protein, he should get stronger. That will make it easier for him to guard the 4 and be a better rebounder.
He's super athletic but its gross watching him shoot a jump shot. He needs to develop some coordination with that vertical.
There are ways to protect a "small" 4 as well to help with rebounding. Play a "Big" 3 (Hadley) and "Big" 5 (Jackson/Rock). Lipsey is also an absolute bulldog and rebounds at an elite level for a point guard. Its pretty clear TJ wants 4 out there at all times on offense thatll be a threat from anywhere on the court. Have to get better on the offensive end of the floor.
I would love another scoring guard thats 6'4/ 6'5 like AJ Storr, Johnell Davis or a Big that can actually score like his teammate Goldin at Fau. Although we massively improved for a 3rd year in a row, we STILL have long stretches where we cannot score and get a bucket either in the back court or down low with out limited Bigs on offensive. Happened to start IL game and many other times throughout the year. Wonder what TJ will do with the final 3 spots.
Do you put the player that was your "go to" guy in clutch situations, and proved he could handle it, on the bench. I don't think so, but I have been wrong before.
I put the best 5 on the floor. I think Momcilovic is one of those 5 but it's conceivable that Jones starts at the 3 next year in his place. My point is it really doesn't matter their both 25+ minutes a game guys.
Honestly between Lipsey, Gilbert, Jones, Heise and Momcilovic nobody should get as many minutes as they did this year. We're even more deadly if those guys get more breaks. I saw someone post playing 20 minutes for TJ is like 30 at Iowa.
That’s because you’re not reading well or so emotional you are resorting to strawmans
If we’re adding Heise, Hadley, and Dailey, which was the hypothetical that started this, Milan is the most susceptible to losing minutes to those three. Particularly if it’s the freshman version of Milan
Don’t think of it as a slight to Milan, but a compliment to the other three. And in terms of complementary, Lipsey, Gilbert, and even CuJo can all be primary ball handlers.
If we were to land those three, or similar, we don’t have locks to start, and very well could have many starting lineups.
This kid would be a good add out of Michigan (Oakland)
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As is typical for this staff, they've identified and targeted an initial priority list of transfer. Those are the ones we've set up calls or visits with. TJ doesn't miss on many of these.
Jackson and Heise are committed now.
The other two names that have set up visits or calls are:
J'Vonne Hadley from Colorado - is supposed to have a zoom call with TJ this week; was also meeting with Michigan State
William Kyle from SDSU - in-home visit scheduled this week; main competition is said to be Nebraska
If we get those two, they'll probably be done (maybe?) - they fill two needed roles.
Hadley is a 3/4 hybrid, similar in size to Watson with a much better offensive game, especially around the rim / post ups / etc
Kyle is a 4/5 hybrid, a slightly more skilled Hason Ward - maybe slightly less athletic maybe, but with a bit more range / handle on offense. He fully looked the part in matching up with Ward in the tourney game.
If we miss on either of those, I'd expect us to target different players at the '4'.
Emotion? I believe I was told to get ****** not the other way around...And yeah I understand your take and it's a bad take. Hadley could get his "starter" minutes without impacting Milan's minutes. But until proven on the court there is no way in hell Heise or Dailey would take minutes from Milan. Milan single handedly won multiple games for ISU last year and was the go to finisher for multiple games, so unless he severely regresses the coaching staff has already shown their cards with Milan and wanting him on the court to win games. Somehow people forget CuJo was largely worthless for the first half of the season. I'd be more worried for him if Heise or Hadley would be a more consistent shooting threat.
