*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Skyh13

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There is some conjecture that Ricketts is waiting to spend more when the next CBA is implemented in 2027 so he knows the longer term rules, but that's giving him too much benefit of the doubt based on past practice IMO.

The owners are desperate for a salary cap, and that’s what he’d be waiting for. It’s never enough for these filthy rich bastards just to make money — it has to be a **** ton of money, otherwise they “can’t afford it” (ha), or they just feel like it isn’t worth it.

A salary cap makes sure that they don’t have to also compete with other owners who are willing to spend more of the money they make. In that world, your success gets you more money, which then can (key word “can”) beget more success, and so on. The problem there is these owners want “success” to solely mean “more profit”, instead of having to turn around and reinvest that money. Many of them don’t really give a **** about competition, it’s just a business venture, and modern business is about maximalist profiteering more than anything else.

We’ll see what happens, depending on how long baseball is gone after next year.
 

isucy86

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Did Boog fall out of the announcers booth? A personal obsession.

It is pretty amazing, they discussed earlier in the game and last Cub player to hit for the cycle was Mark Grace. But since then something like 250 players have fell one aspect short of the cycle. Wouldn't have though Kelly had it in him to hit a triple.
 

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The owners are desperate for a salary cap, and that’s what he’d be waiting for. It’s never enough for these filthy rich bastards just to make money — it has to be a **** ton of money, otherwise they “can’t afford it” (ha), or they just feel like it isn’t worth it.

A salary cap makes sure that they don’t have to also compete with other owners who are willing to spend more of the money they make. In that world, your success gets you more money, which then can (key word “can”) beget more success, and so on. The problem there is these owners want “success” to solely mean “more profit”, instead of having to turn around and reinvest that money. Many of them don’t really give a **** about competition, it’s just a business venture, and modern business is about maximalist profiteering more than anything else.

We’ll see what happens, depending on how long baseball is gone after next year.

I think some kind of cap is due as long term I don't think having a handful of teams spend what the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets have been lately is good for the sport. I do think if they put a cap in place they also need to raise the floor for spending too so you don't have another handful of teams going super cheap and spending under $100 mil total on players. I mean there are teams that are paying 2 players the combined amount of what Miami and some other teams are paying their entire roster this season. That also is not good for the sport. Tightening up the ceiling and floor for payrolls would create a little more parity in the sport.

2025 MLB Team Salary Payroll Tracker
 

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There is some conjecture that Ricketts is waiting to spend more when the next CBA is implemented in 2027 so he knows the longer term rules, but that's giving him too much benefit of the doubt based on past practice IMO.
This is my hope for why I think we do resign Tucker. 50 mil signing bonus and a 20 mil 2026 salary. 2027 we have a ton coming off the books. Then we can refigure the free agents and by then we’ll know which of theee prospects are players
 

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Did Boog fall out of the announcers booth? A personal obsession.

It is pretty amazing, they discussed earlier in the game and last Cub player to hit for the cycle was Mark Grace. But since then something like 250 players have fell one aspect short of the cycle. Wouldn't have though Kelly had it in him to hit a triple.
Heck Tucker was a triple shy of it last night!

He had a HR, a single, and two doubles
 

Clonefan32

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Also, what an absolute joke that MLB is allowing games in that dump of a stadium.
 

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Also, what an absolute joke that MLB is allowing games in that dump of a stadium.
Yep. Novelty of that will wear off pretty fast. No running down the steps to the clubhouse when you need something or want a few swings. One year is bad enough, but three years is miserable. And I feel for Sacramento fans - do you embrace the team or not? Less than ideal situation.
 

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The thing that sucks is if this team is in the same spot in July as it has been the past 2 years Jed will probably not sell like he should since he is a lame duck at this point so I could see him make some terrible decisions with trading prospects for more rentals in a last ditch effort to save his job. He and Carter Hawkins made their bed to sleep in right now, Ricketts is to blame too for being cheap but we've been hearing for multiple years now promises to spend and promises about addressing the bullpen and they haven't. I've said it many times, what exactly is the vision this front office has with roster construction? We sold off the core roster in 2021 and some small deals at the deadline in 2022 with the biggest one being David Robertson for Ben Brown and Effross to the Yankees for Wesneski who is already gone. They didn't trade away Happ or Contreras when they had a chance so instead they extended Happ with a NTC and let Conteras walk for no return. Probably had chances to trade Bellinger for some kind of return and instead they resign him to a deal they hoped he opt out of, when he didn't have as good of a year he opted in and they wound up trading him for nothing in a salary dump.

Are they committed to building through the farm system or not because some of the moves they've made since 2021 don't seem to point that they are. And they sure haven't signed anyone of significance in free agency to make you think they are going to add the needed pieces around the prospects either. At least the 1st go around they signaled they would by signing Lester then traded for or signed the remaining pieces like Fowler and Zobrist and I guess you can throw Heyward in that mix too as they gave him a big deal. Haven't really seen them attempt to do anything like that with this current roster. Tucker is just a rental and originally made you think they were finally serious about adding some more expensive pieces to the mix but we found out that was not the case. So instead we have a roster without an identity and vision on where it is headed and prospects we acquired or drafted in recent years some are blocked at certain positions.

Even the long term payroll doesn't give you much of an idea where the roster is headed. Happ and Suzuki's contracts with NTC both go through 2026, Nico through 2026, Swanson 2029, Shota technically through 2028 with his strange options in his contract, Taillon 2026, Boyd 2026 with a mutual option for 2027 then the rest of the roster are all either team control Arb years or set to become UFA after this year. I guess you can say they are in wait and see mode with guys under team control and are saving payroll to extend them? By my math they've only spend just over $26 mil on the bullpen and that is assuming the numbers in the link below are what we are actually paying Pressly. There are teams contending for the playoffs that pay just 2 high end guys that much or more combined.

Chicago Cubs Multi-Year Table
Tl;dr we don’t get to say that as much as we used to. Cubs suck, confirmed. Would make me feel better at least if the skinflint bazillionaire owner spent some of his precious money. Especially considering the valuation of the ballclub has quadrupled during his reign of austerity. Signing Tucker longterm would be a good start ya cheap f-k.
 

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QFT: If the Cubs really do sign Tucker long-term, then I hope the Astros DO have a keeper in Cam Smith, fair is fair. We've needed a middle of the order bat like this for a LONG time now. Pay the man, cmon Ricketts.
 

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There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell Ricketts re-signs Tucker. They’re gonna **** around next year waiting for the lockout to start, and he isn’t gonna want any existing expensive contracts he has to pay before that sweet, sweet salary cap goes in so he can make a bajillion dollars rather than hundreds of millions or a billion or whatever the Cubs yearly revenue is.
 
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