If the Big 12 implodes and ceases to exist there will be no exit fees. Do you really think that the schools leaving for the Pac 16 and SEC are going to give all of their TV money from this year's TV contract to KU, Kstate, ISU, and Baylor? I'm pretty sure Nebraska and Colorado didn't have to write a check to leave, they just didn't get their share of last years TV money.
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If the Big 12 implodes and ceases to exist there will be no exit fees. Do you really think that the schools leaving for the Pac 16 and SEC are going to give all of their TV money from this year's TV contract to KU, Kstate, ISU, and Baylor? I'm pretty sure Nebraska and Colorado didn't have to write a check to leave, they just didn't get their share of last years TV money.
I'm sure this will bill looked into closely. If it takes 5 teams staying to keep the conference going, the Big12 can still withhold money from the teams. ISU KU KSU MU BU can delay their official moves a year if that's what it takes. BigEast would be happy to accommodate timing.
Do you think the Big East would also look at Baylor? It would give the conference a second presence in Texas, give TCU a league neighbor and Baylor brings very good b-ball programs and a decent football program
And what exactly would we do for scheduling for 2012? Not easy to find 25 more games to play in that short a period of time..
I could definitely see lawsuits though.
Is it realistic to expect these teams to pay the exit fee? Seems like all they do is file a court petition, then negotiate away the fee. No University is going to pay 20MM.
I'm not sure what is in the bylaws, so I don't know where the breaking point is for when we no longer seem to exist as a conference. I'm talking in the legal sense, not the "are they any good and does anybody care about them" sense. Usually it's when you lose OVER half your members, we have 10 now, so as long as 5 hold out we might still be a conference and exit fees are in force.
SMU and a couple others are chomping at the bit to get in, take their applications to show we will have enough members if we choose to continue and then rewrite the exit fees (or by that time ESPN and others will have knocked our TV contract down and we can justify lower exit fees) and walk out. A lot of hoops, but for 30 million you can set them unfire for me.
Plus, we can at least get a little redemption knowing that we stuck it to the Texas boys a little. Kinda like the one thread comparing this to prision rape, at least they catch something from us for doing it.
SMU and a couple others are chomping at the bit to get in, take their applications to show we will have enough members if we choose to continue and then rewrite the exit fees (or by that time ESPN and others will have knocked our TV contract down and we can justify lower exit fees) and walk out. A lot of hoops, but for 30 million you can set them unfire for me.
Plus, we can at least get a little redemption knowing that we stuck it to the Texas boys a little. Kinda like the one thread comparing this to prision rape, at least they catch something from us for doing it.
Texas runs the conference, they won't pay anything and neither will the schools leaving with them
We dont need to play one more year. If they leave, all we have to do is survive one more day without them. We get lined up to the BE, let them leave, one day later keep TV money and go shut it down. Amazingly release a conference schedule with BE schools and start new conference.
Going to be tough, but a chance
Going to be tough, but a chance
Why is the big 10 not looked at? They will eventually need to go to 16+ teams. Why not look at the angle too?
B10 has Iowa, we don't bring enough to B10, just have to split revenues in a state they already have presence.
then why does the Pac-12 take OU and OSU? I would think that is an avenue that JP needs to look at before just accepting the Big East. BE great for basketball, horrible for football recruiting.
If I remember correctly from June, 2010, to dissolve the conference requires 2/3 vote (I think, or at least half of the members +1). If four bolt to the 12 Pac, and Aggies go SEC, then there's still enough members to not dissolve the conference, thus letting the forgotten 5 collect the exit fees.
Let's hope so...if they go P12 instead of Tech, I don't like our chances to get in the BE if they only take 3. I think they'd go KU, KSU, & Tech. I know KSU shouldn't get the nod over ISU, but I just think they would for some unjustifiable reason.
Love it.
Love it even more that ISU would play within 1.5 hours of Chicago 3 times a year! That is a SALTY division, but DePaul has been about as bad as can be for almost a decade.
Actually, I don't know if this is fact or not, but I read the BE has to announce its teams by Sept 14 or somewhere around there before final negotiation of their TV contract. I think if we are included it would need to be known by then.
if the SEC goes to 16 and the Pac-12 goes to 16, they will probably need to follow suit......they are not going to poach anyone from the SEC, i would guess the ACC / BE have some kind of merger with football schools and the Big East becomes just a basketball conference. That's just how i kind of see it playing out.
Also adding ISU, KU and KSU to the BE make the conference any better at football? The BE is a laughing stock when it comes to BCS and bowl season. Wouldn't be suprised if the BCS kicks the BE out, then you have the Big 10, SEC, Pac-12 and ACC as the four conferences in the BCS.
I think the bylaws talk about a quorum of 75% of members to vote on issues. So for TX OU etc to vote to dissolve the conference, you'd need 8 votes. So maybe the minimum number of remaining schools could be 3.
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I think in that case you might see Tech in the SEC.
RE Baylor: I don't think they get the call unless the Big East looks to go beyond 12, which wouldn't shock me one bit.
I could see all the Big 12 leftover plus ECU/UCF ending up there and it going to 16.
