*** Official IOWA STATE vs #4 TCU Game(Day) Thread ***

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Is it possible to build a good program at Iowa State? I fear we actually are the coaching graveyard we have been perceived to be. Campbell has built the talent level, but we're still 7th or 8th in the conference in overall talent.

Yes but you have to have a foundation of something you do that brings in players specific to that thing.
 

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Is it possible to build a good program at Iowa State? I fear we actually are the coaching graveyard we have been perceived to be. Campbell has built the talent level, but we're still 7th or 8th in the conference in overall talent.

Probably not. I'm starting to wonder if our level as a program only attracts coaches with a limited potential and kind of maintains its own cycle that way.
 
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Is it possible to build a good program at Iowa State? I fear we actually are the coaching graveyard we have been perceived to be. Campbell has built the talent level, but we're still 7th or 8th in the conference in overall talent.
Yes.

Talent ratings matter, but they aren't everything.

Need a stellar strength and condition coach though.

And you have to have an identity.

ISU should be near parity or better in talent than KU, KSU, TTech, and WV.

Can narrow the gap by redshirting and being smart with the portal.

ISU is a great place to attend college and our stadium and gameday atmosphere are amazing.
 

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Is it possible to build a good program at Iowa State? I fear we actually are the coaching graveyard we have been perceived to be. Campbell has built the talent level, but we're still 7th or 8th in the conference in overall talent.
Leipold is doing it at the dumpster fire that was Kansas football
 

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I only watched a bit of the first quarter before going ot the Darke MBB game today, so I am not going to nit pick this game. It basically sucked. Either TCU is a super human team or ISU just gave up on the game at some point. Probably some kind of combo. Do not really care.

What I do care about.

Matt Campbell is a good coach, but he is stubborn. The biggest thing he has to do is make a commitment to Special Teams and HIRE a special teams coach. If he does that, I'll be happy, If he does not do that, I am done as a season ticket holder. Not going to feel guilty about it eitherr as I was a season ticket holder from 1989-95 during my first tour of Iowa and have been a season ticket holder since I moved back in 2019. So, I have paid to see bad teams (in the past) and good teams (in the present). My overall record watching ISU in person is 34-34-1 including 2-2 this season.

Not doing it anymore unless he addresses this one single issue which accounts for 1/3 of a football team's identity. I'll still go to selective games and watch on TV or listen on the radio, but this season ticket holder of 11 seasons (7 from the olden days and 4 from the Campbell Era) is done. Not a threat, but a promise.

That's all.

Let's Go State!
 

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I only watched a bit of the first quarter before going ot the Darke MBB game today, so I am not going to nit pick this game. It basically sucked. Either TCU is a super human team or ISU just gave up on the game at some point. Probably some kind of combo. Do not really care.

What I do care about.

Matt Campbell is a good coach, but he is stubborn. The biggest thing he has to do is make a commitment to Special Teams and HIRE a special teams coach. If he does that, I'll be happy, If he does not do that, I am done as a season ticket holder. Not going to feel guilty about it eitherr as I was a season ticket holder from 1989-95 during my first tour of Iowa and have been a season ticket holder since I moved back in 2019. So, I have paid to see bad teams (in the past) and good teams (in the present). My overall record watching ISU in person is 34-34-1 including 2-2 this season.

Not doing it anymore unless he addresses this one single issue which accounts for 1/3 of a football team's identity. I'll still go to selective games and watch on TV or listen on the radio, but this season ticket holder of 11 seasons (7 from the olden days and 4 from the Campbell Era) is done. Not a threat, but a promise.

That's all.

Let's Go State!

How did the BB game turn out?
 

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Drake led the whole game, had a very big lead in the first half (20ish), slipped to 6 late, but the Bulldogs won 76-64. They are good.
do they still have some injuries? My dad has season tickets, hope to catch some games this year. Drake is fun to watch.
 
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Leipold is doing it at the dumpster fire that was Kansas football
Schools that are not red-bloods (alabama, Ohio State, OU, etc....) have to live in cycles of coaching career trajectory.....Before you get to Bill Snyder/BArry Alvarez level success, you have to sell a constantly trending or upwardly improving success rate to kids--who are paying attention to these things- and moms and dads. You have a 7-8 year span to prove you got the coaching chops, come what may with recruiting craziness, injuries, tornadoes, missed field goals, etc...... In hind site, that Pin Strip Bowl was huge in he CPR trajectory....

Leipold is still selling hope and has done great thus far.....if in year 6 at KU all he has is a Shreveport Bowl win and a couple of Liberty Bowl second place t-shirts.....then he'll be humbled too.
 

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I only watched a bit of the first quarter before going ot the Darke MBB game today, so I am not going to nit pick this game. It basically sucked. Either TCU is a super human team or ISU just gave up on the game at some point. Probably some kind of combo. Do not really care.

What I do care about.

Matt Campbell is a good coach, but he is stubborn. The biggest thing he has to do is make a commitment to Special Teams and HIRE a special teams coach. If he does that, I'll be happy, If he does not do that, I am done as a season ticket holder. Not going to feel guilty about it eitherr as I was a season ticket holder from 1989-95 during my first tour of Iowa and have been a season ticket holder since I moved back in 2019. So, I have paid to see bad teams (in the past) and good teams (in the present). My overall record watching ISU in person is 34-34-1 including 2-2 this season.

Not doing it anymore unless he addresses this one single issue which accounts for 1/3 of a football team's identity. I'll still go to selective games and watch on TV or listen on the radio, but this season ticket holder of 11 seasons (7 from the olden days and 4 from the Campbell Era) is done. Not a threat, but a promise.

That's all.

Let's Go State!
I agree relative to the stubbornness and Special Team Assessment.

Hope all works out
 
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do they still have some injuries? My dad has season tickets, hope to catch some games this year. Drake is fun to watch.
Was my third game of the year (IUPUI, Wofford and ULL).

Penn and Wilkins both played tonight. Penn is not up to his normal self (6 points) yet, but Wilkins (21 points) had a solid game. Go with your dad whenever you can. They are fun to watch!

fyi: Cannot wait to go to the St. John's @ ISU game next Sunday! Obviously, I am a ISU fan first, but I live in DSM, so it is just easier to go to Bulldogs games.
 
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collect enough football money to pay for a consistent 4-7 win team. pool everything else into basketball. And then some...
 

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If any of you are looking for any last minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Tom Manning, my OC, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him right here with a bow ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey **** he is! Hallelujah, holy ****! Where’s the Tylenol?