***Official ISU vs Texas Meltdown Thread***

[NoCreativity]

Can anyone provide the justification for the roughing the passer on us? Was it the fact that the hit came too long after the throw or were we supposed to let up and not go to the ground with him?

I re-watched that a few times and I can't figure it out. It definitely was bang bang and you couldn't let up or not go to the ground once you commit to going after the ball.

I am pretty sure there are some folks on here that can explain why that was a good call and that 15 extra yards was totally justified and that we just have to be better to not get these obvious calls.

That 15 yards didn't give them the touchdown or win them the game. But, it sure as hell didn't hurt their odds.

Anyone?

Nobody will be able to explain it because it was completely unjustified. Both guys were with a split second of a sack, I guess they are just suppsoe to stop in mid-air. Then when they tackled him it wasn't excessive or anything.

The hits on Brady and Carr last week were alot rougher than what our guys did and those were still absolutely ridiculous penalties.

 

[cmjh10]

Just saw the X drop. Good ******* lord, that’s bad. You have to catch that every time. Dude is good, but he comes up short in crunch time.

 

[cycloneworld]

Aside from the two turnovers, I thought this was actually the best our offense had looked all year (non-con cupcake games don’t count).

Manning called a way better game than he usually does, and it was nice seeing a more vertical passing game. Still, special teams my God it is bad.

Agree. I thought the staff had a great game plan.

End zone turnover
Missed FG
Dropped INT
Dropped potential game winning pass
QB fumbles

None of those are on the staff/game plan. Players just didn’t make the critical plays.

 

[cycloneworld]

Can anyone provide the justification for the roughing the passer on us? Was it the fact that the hit came too long after the throw or were we supposed to let up and not go to the ground with him?

I re-watched that a few times and I can't figure it out. It definitely was bang bang and you couldn't let up or not go to the ground once you commit to going after the ball.

I am pretty sure there are some folks on here that can explain why that was a good call and that 15 extra yards was totally justified and that we just have to be better to not get these obvious calls.

That 15 yards didn't give them the touchdown or win them the game. But, it sure as hell didn't hurt their odds.

Anyone?

It was another brutally bad call.

 

[joefrog]

FIFY. But you can't expect perfection from them, right?

However, your team has to play perfect with no mistakes to deserve a win, but officials can **** up major points of the game and its ALSO your fault.

Give me a freekin' break.

(Aimed at ref apologists, not you jsb)

That is the point I made above.

CampbellBall only results in victories with unbiased and good officiating.

ISU plays in the Big12.

Thus, CampbellBall no longer works.

 

[joefrog]

Question, did they show more than one angle on the Dekkers hit/"fumble"?

I don't remember another besides the on from the side.

 

[NoCreativity]

Question, did they show more than one angle on the Dekkers hit/"fumble"?

I don't remember another besides the on from the side.

No, how can a small startup company like ABC and ESPN afford more than 1 camera angle?

 

[KidSilverhair]

Agree. I thought the staff had a great game plan.

End zone turnover
Missed FG
Dropped INT
Dropped potential game winning pass
QB fumbles

None of those are on the staff/game plan. Players just didn’t make the critical plays.

Man, I forgot about Johnson dropping that pick. Thanks for bringing that back up.

The 2nd quarter interception was big - such a terrible decision by Dekkers on a drive that almost certainly would have gotten 3 points if not 7. The X drop was likely another 7. If Johnson makes the INT that takes another 7 away from Texas. I mean, I know you can’t play that game - different scores early means the game plays out in a different way later - but it really exposes how Iowa State games almost always come down to a handful of plays. In 2020 most of the breaks went for ISU, in 2021-22 most of them haven’t. Partially bad luck, partially players not executing in crunch time.

 

[KidSilverhair]

No, how can a small startup company like ABC and ESPN afford more than 1 camera angle?

I saw one other angle, but they only showed it once because you literally couldn’t see the contact (blocked by other players).

 

[isuno1fan]

Can anyone provide the justification for the roughing the passer on us? Was it the fact that the hit came too long after the throw or were we supposed to let up and not go to the ground with him?

I re-watched that a few times and I can't figure it out. It definitely was bang bang and you couldn't let up or not go to the ground once you commit to going after the ball.

I am pretty sure there are some folks on here that can explain why that was a good call and that 15 extra yards was totally justified and that we just have to be better to not get these obvious calls.

That 15 yards didn't give them the touchdown or win them the game. But, it sure as hell didn't hurt their odds.

Anyone?

That was a bad call. The calls at the end of the game were not however frustrating that is for some to accept.

 

[AuH2O]

That was a bad call. The calls at the end of the game were not however frustrating that is for some to accept.

There were two egregious calls/no calls. First was the roughing. Just brutally horrible. Right after that was no call on blatant pass interference on ISU.

The fumble and targeting weren’t bad calls. They were close calls that could’ve went either way but of course went Texas’ way. Just because we’ve all seen stupid targeting calls many times doesn’t make this targeting. It’s magnified because it was on a QB that fumbles and essentially ends the game. But there are far more instances of hard contact actually with the crown, often by offensive players many times every game.

 

[Nococy]

Can anyone provide the justification for the roughing the passer on us? Was it the fact that the hit came too long after the throw or were we supposed to let up and not go to the ground with him?

I re-watched that a few times and I can't figure it out. It definitely was bang bang and you couldn't let up or not go to the ground once you commit to going after the ball.

I am pretty sure there are some folks on here that can explain why that was a good call and that 15 extra yards was totally justified and that we just have to be better to not get these obvious calls.

That 15 yards didn't give them the touchdown or win them the game. But, it sure as hell didn't hurt their odds.

Anyone?

I thought the official said he drove him into the ground. Another example of protecting a name by the official

 

[NoCreativity]

I thought the official said he drove him into the ground. Another example of protecting a name by the official

Lol, our defender should have known better than to land with 75% of his bodyweight instead of 65%.

 

[Nococy]

Lol, our defender should have known better than to land with 75% of his bodyweight instead of 65%.

You know the defense might as well make the call worth their while if they are going to call mysterious roughing penalties. get your money’s worth and take him out.

 

[clonedude]

It was another brutally bad call.

Does anyone have video of the roughing the passer play? I think I was taking the dog out when that happened.... or on a restroom break.

 

[madguy30]

Question, did they show more than one angle on the Dekkers hit/"fumble"?

I don't remember another besides the on from the side.

Ball unfortunately looked jarred out just before the knee hit.

 

[LtRaczack]

That is the point I made above.

CampbellBall only results in victories with unbiased and good officiating.

ISU plays in the Big12.

Thus, CampbellBall no longer works.

I thought that was clear in 2017 season against Kansas State/Oklahoma State and the Memphis game showed the lesson was learned.

I was asked to leave a BWWs in Vegas after letting some colorful metaphors fly during the Kansas State game over picked up flags. They told me that language was not appropriate in a family establishment as people were working the street right out front.

 

[ISUTex]

You said players get paid. I asked you about one player and your answer is "I don't know."

Did you catch the free college part?

 

[JP4CY]

Did you catch the free college part?

A scholarship isn't the same as "getting paid" no matter how much you may want to think it is.
If someone gets an academic scholarship to ISU, do you connotate that with them getting paid?

It just boils down to me thinking that booing and blaming our own players is kinda ******. You disagree with that. That's fine.

 

[atlantacyclone]

We played a good game and came up short… and our valiant effort to take the game was stopped short by a very bad call… hard to melt down on that. It does suck to be dead last in the league.