I'd love to see us make a point and come out next week with this lineup:
Bubu
McGee
Babb
Gibson
Royce
Bubu
McGee
Babb
Gibson
Royce
***OFFICIAL ISU vs UNI MBB THREAD ***
- Thread starter Balrog
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I, am far from a delusional fan. This loss is disheartening, but it's not like teams never lose to inferior teams talent wise. It's safe to say that UNI was likely to be the more solid team coming into the game, and they showed it. I can point out a plethora of teams that are more talented and have lost to far inferior teams than UNI this year alone.
If you were watching this game, UNI is a very good passing team. They find the open man. When playing help defense, players rotate to cover and there is usually an open man. UNI hit every open shot. Most nights, that doesn't happen. That's what killed the game in the last 5 minutes. We played good enough defense tonight, but they lit it up and we couldn't hit a shot to save our lives past the first 4 minutes and took poor shots.
It's still early in the season, and we look miles better than we did against Drake. I'm just asking people to calm the hell down, and if they can't, don't watch. Honestly I'm not so sure some people on here know what this team should look like based on realistic expectations and they'll only be happy seeing ISU face-roll everybody and plow our way into the tournament. Not going to happen, sorry. Iowa State is not what it was in basketball what it was in 2000, yet. Fred has been here less than 2 years, give it time.
Then perhaps we shouldn't have hired a coach with 0 head coaching experience. I'm sorry but Division 1, Big 12 basketball isn't the place to be learning how to coach.
10 years? We were in the NCAA tournament (2nd round losing to the future National Champs) in 2005 and the NIT semifinals in 2004...Less than 10 years.
Oh yeah its only year 2, give it some time. Time is up for Chris Allen though, I've seen your type before, let's see more of anybody over him.
So CW and others closer to the program basically say expectations need to be tempered, apparently they were right and yet many are carrying on here like this is some huge shock. Its a long season, there is talent on the team. Let the coaches coach and the players play - its embarrassing seeing some of the posters in this thread calling out coaching abiliy, effort, etc...
Screw year 2, he has the talent in place to win these games. It's time to put up or shut up.
That's fine. We all knew he didn't know how to coach when we brought him in. So as long as you're ok with waiting years and years for Fred to figure it out before we start beating teams like Drake and UNI, I'm fine with that.
I just don't believe all the people on here saying that Fred's this great coach and it's just the players fault. Fred has shown me nothing so far to suggest he knows what he's doing yet? Part of the coaches job is to motivate too.
We will get destroyed in the Big XII . . . frankly, it's a toss up between Iowa and ISU as to who is the worst team. I put my money on Iowa right now . . more upside and better coaching.
I know there is a lot of season left and so does everyone else on here, but when you display your team like this and lose at home to UNI when you had a ten point lead FAIL.
If the **** does not hit the fan in practice tomorrow like it should we are in trouble I hope to GOD he does, but this team is a ******* joke right now.
If the **** does not hit the fan in practice tomorrow like it should we are in trouble I hope to GOD he does, but this team is a ******* joke right now.
I agree. Patience would be a good word for tonight. We're not world beaters, but it's hard to say this team hasn't improved from what they were. They will continue to do so. This doesn't just happen overnight, people. You can't just expect a lot of freshmen, sophomores, and transfers that haven't played D-1 ball in over a year to jell and beat everybody. It doesn't work like that unless you have talent like a UNC, Kansas, and Duke. We're not them. Most great teams don't play as many underclassmen as we do. UNI is experienced, we're not, yet. People need to calm down.
Can you imagine how bad we'd be if we didn't have those extra 10 days of practice and time for team chemistry.
What a waste of money
I am going to reiterate a point I made a couple games ago. Last year, Ejim and SC were good effective players. This year, non-existent. I think last years Scout team is having trouble meshing with them. With Royce down low, and Allen and Babb shooting threes, you would think Scotty could sneak open once in a while. I can barely remember him getting a shot other than running one-handers while being double teamed in the lane.
I hope someone who is closer can tell me I'm wrong...
I hope someone who is closer can tell me I'm wrong...
If you can't prove you can win big games early on you are screwed. You have a very small finite window to establish yourself and attract recruits. They see stuff like this and start going elsewhere.
Doesn't matter if you can get it going by year 6....it's too late and the recruits you want are going elsewhere.
