Official KU postgame thread

[CycloneErik]

I was surprised how simple the production was. And how almost everything was focused on their winning tradition. Very little "fun" stuff. Lots of highlights and self-references to being champions. Never sensed any tension in transitions, such as our awkward switches to the pep band right after the cheerleaders start a Cyclone Power chant. And it was almost like everyone knew what was coming next so they were "full on" with every next thing.

I like their museum-style exhibits on the way in, too. It's really well done all the way around.

 

[PlanoClone]

Wow. You mean a coach taking the heat off of his players?

Scandalous. It’s obvious he should have been fired before getting on the plane home from Lawrence. Make him find his own way home.

Dude, somebody had a post stating the Kansas game was on Prohm since he didn't make any adjustments to what KU was doing. You replied "This is dumb." I pointed out the fact that Prohm stated in his presser that the game was on him as he should have made some adjustments. Sound similar to what that poster stated where you replied "This is dumb." ?

I wasn't throwing Prohm under the bus for that--it's what he should have done especially since it was true. I was pointing out the fact that you called somebody's take dumb when in fact, Prohm said essentially the same thing.

If you're "this is dumb" response was you thinking nobody should ever question our coaches, so be it. If it was because you didn't agree with the poster's assessment, Prohm would disagree.

 

[Cycsk]

I like their museum-style exhibits on the way in, too. It's really well done all the way around.

Especially the exhibit of the original basketball rules. "KU Manipulating the Refs since 1892!"

 

[Cat Stevens]

Dude, somebody had a post stating the Kansas game was on Prohm since he didn't make any adjustments to what KU was doing. You replied "This is dumb." I pointed out the fact that Prohm stated in his presser that the game was on him as he should have made some adjustments. Sound similar to what that poster stated where you replied "This is dumb." ?

I wasn't throwing Prohm under the bus for that--it's what he should have done especially since it was true. I was pointing out the fact that you called somebody's take dumb when in fact, Prohm said essentially the same thing.

If you're "this is dumb" response was you thinking nobody should ever question our coaches, so be it. If it was because you didn't agree with the poster's assessment, Prohm would disagree.

So you’re saying that you didn’t think there were any adjustments made during the course of the game? And that in this instance, to confirm your bias, you will believe coach speak designed to take responsibility?

That is dumb

 

[PlanoClone]

So you’re saying that you didn’t think there were any adjustments made during the course of the game? And that in this instance, to confirm your bias, you will believe coach speak designed to take responsibility?

That is dumb

Yes, I meant there were NO adjustments made at any point during the game. You are very good at reading minds. Thank you for telling me what I really meant.

KU kept doing the same thing over and over and over again successfully in the 2nd half which is what Prohm specifically addressed. So sure, Prohm just said it to take the spotlight away from the players who obviously didn't make the adjustments he told them to make. I'll go with that. What adjustments did you see us make to keep them from continually driving to the hoop for fairly easy buckets? Because at one point 10 of their last 11 buckets were in the paint, many from point blank range. I didn't see any, but you can probably tell me what I saw.

But coach speak is fine if that's what you want to call it. Since you can read my mind, you can probably read Prohm's as well.

 

[Cycsk]

Yes, I meant there were NO adjustments made at any point during the game. You are very good at reading minds. Thank you for telling me what I really meant.

KU kept doing the same thing over and over and over again successfully in the 2nd half which is what Prohm specifically addressed. So sure, Prohm just said it to take the spotlight away from the players who obviously didn't make the adjustments he told them to make. I'll go with that. What adjustments did you see us make to keep them from continually driving to the hoop for fairly easy buckets? Because at one point 10 of their last 11 buckets were in the paint, many from point blank range. I didn't see any, but you can probably tell me what I saw.

But coach speak is fine if that's what you want to call it. Since you can read my mind, you can probably read Prohm's as well.

I'm not sure what he could have changed on defense. We were switching well, but it seemed like everyone was letting guards get past them. KU did a great job of hand-checking Nick on the other end. He couldn't get a call from the refs even when he was swatting off the hands of a KU defender. But on the other end, we weren't even getting it the way of KU guards. If I were Prohm, I don't think I would have changed anything other than telling guys to stop letting guards get past you.

P.S. Part of the reason I think we were a little loose on defending guards was because we were so conscious of double-teaming Lawson in the second half. Not sure I would have changed that either.

 

[moores2]

At least we kept it close enough that the crowd wasn't sure it over before the clock hits zero. I don't know if anything makes me quite as mad as that Rock Chalk phog chant.

 

[CyTwins]

Yes, I meant there were NO adjustments made at any point during the game. You are very good at reading minds. Thank you for telling me what I really meant.

KU kept doing the same thing over and over and over again successfully in the 2nd half which is what Prohm specifically addressed. So sure, Prohm just said it to take the spotlight away from the players who obviously didn't make the adjustments he told them to make. I'll go with that. What adjustments did you see us make to keep them from continually driving to the hoop for fairly easy buckets? Because at one point 10 of their last 11 buckets were in the paint, many from point blank range. I didn't see any, but you can probably tell me what I saw.

But coach speak is fine if that's what you want to call it. Since you can read my mind, you can probably read Prohm's as well.

We switched to zone but that didn't even work

 

[Gossamer]

The quality of your thoughts can be summarized by who agrees with you. This would be a pretty good example

coming from you, i'm ok with that

 

[Cat Stevens]

coming from you, i'm ok with that

Yeah. I would never assume you were self aware enough to understand

 

[Cat Stevens]

Yes, I meant there were NO adjustments made at any point during the game. You are very good at reading minds. Thank you for telling me what I really meant.

KU kept doing the same thing over and over and over again successfully in the 2nd half which is what Prohm specifically addressed. So sure, Prohm just said it to take the spotlight away from the players who obviously didn't make the adjustments he told them to make. I'll go with that. What adjustments did you see us make to keep them from continually driving to the hoop for fairly easy buckets? Because at one point 10 of their last 11 buckets were in the paint, many from point blank range. I didn't see any, but you can probably tell me what I saw.

But coach speak is fine if that's what you want to call it. Since you can read my mind, you can probably read Prohm's as well.

Then you are wrong. You should feel bad for trying to pretend you’re the aggrieved party somehow.

 

[awd4cy]

I've heard/read people saying that the crowd at The Phog didn't really get into the game until the second half. Was that what they said on TV? I was there and was very impressed with how "into the game" the crowd was from the outset. The moment the flags appeared from the corner, the students ramped it up loud. Of course, it got even louder in the second half when KU made their run. But it is crazy to say that they "weren't into it" until the second half.

This was my first trip to The Phog. And to be honest, I was hoping that it wasn't going to be as great as KU fans say. I really wanted to be able to say that our fans are better. Unfortunately, I have to admit the the KU experience is better. Like I said above, the students are "on" from the moment the flags appear. I don't know how much credit to give to the fans and how much to give to the production people. For instance, they play music loud. And at times I wondered if they were actually amplifying (or enhancing) the student cheering too. Overall, the "production" was much simpler than ours. No cutesy, fun things on the court or on the video board. They don't even give anything other than the most basic stats (fouls, points per player on the court). No ribbon board with individual stats. I didn't sense any "competition" between the band, pump-up songs, or student chants. All in all, it seemed like a well-oiled loud machine. It may have gone to another level in the second half, but it certainly wasn't bad at all in the first half. As much as I hate to admit it, I think I would have to give them the nod over us, even for the first half.

The Hilton experience is much more fun and better for a family. There is nothing "family-friendly" about The Phog in-game experience. Hilton has comfortable seats, even in the top row of the balcony. The Phog has almost all benches. It is all about creating an environment that intimidates opponents and refs. And they delivered.

There was one other really interesting feature about The Phog that I've never heard about. The teams enter the court by crossing through the lower concourse right next to clothing and concession stands. The ushers stop traffic and put up ropes to create a channel (not unlike when our football team goes in/out of Bergstrom). KU fans line up early to able to high five players as they enter.

Lastly, kudos to our fans who showed up. There were tons of Iowa State fans there. Not enough to make much of an impression on TV, but just about everywhere you looked in the stadium, except the student sections, you could see Cyclone fans. It would have been awesome to win the game and see all of us being the only ones standing and cheering. Alas. We got "Phog-ed" again.

You can tell how much ahead they are to us on keeping their crowd engaged through timeouts. We need to take a page or 2 out of their book. Also, the student section is definitely much crazier at Phog Allen.

 

[jcyclonee]

We switched to zone but that didn't even work

It was way too easy for Kansas to get the ball to the high post. They could do it via pass or dribble.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Looks like George was, in fact, sick (to some degree) for this game.

 

[Cycsk]

Looks like George was, in fact, sick (to some degree) for this game.

Zion stood with Solo while George participated in warmups.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Zion stood with Solo while George participated in warmups.

Right...to some degree. No idea if that played into the fact that he didn't play, but he evidently wasn't feeling 100%.

 

[Cyclonic1]

I really like CSP but to me it was very obvious that Self made better halftime adjustments than Prohm and when their crowd got into the game that was it.

 

[PlanoClone]

Then you are wrong. You should feel bad for trying to pretend you’re the aggrieved party somehow.

Aggrieved party? Good Lord, have a good day.

 

[Gossamer]

Yeah. I would never assume you were self aware enough to understand

why would you assume anything about someone you don't know.

 

[Gossamer]

Aggrieved party? Good Lord, have a good day.

you can't argue with cat...look at all of his posts...his whole m. o. is to tell you that you're dumb...you either agree with him or you're wrong. typical narcissist material.