***Official Who's Wanting to Leave the Big XII Thread***

[cyclone83]

Seems like Boren is shopping for the best deal in the next there weeks whether in league or the other three confe rences. No wonder he wants to lead the committee finding teams. He kills two birds with one stone. He is a CEO looking for a merger or a spinoff. He is the fox in the henhouse. And you guys were coughing on UT.

Within the next three weeks OK and Okie State will likely go Pac 12. Texas says nothing publicly until they are officially gone. Big 12 collapses. Texas will then have to decide to go Pac 16 or indy. If Texas goes indy, Mizzou and KU probably get invites to Pac 16. If Texas goes Pac 16 Mizzou could go SEC and KU to Pac 16.

Texas publicly says it did everything it could to save the Big 12 but Nebby, Colorado, and Oklahoma killed it. ISU, K State, Baylor, Texas Tech fight it out for three spots in Big East. ISU and K State would be most attractive since they bring another state that is not Texas and are not as geographically isolated as the Texas schools from the East. Hopefully SEC is happy with 14 and Big 10 is happy with 12 for a while. If SEC and Big 10 poach the best ACC and Big East teams to get to 16 the remnants merge to form the fourth and definately worst BCS conference.

 

[colbycheese]

No way that Oklahoma makes that statement unless they are already leaning towards leaving the Big 12.

My hope is that OK is waiting to hear that BYU et al. are coming to the Big 12. If they say no then the sooners are gone... and then Texass, tech, and OSU too. That means if BYU does join then we'll be OK. If not... well I don't want to think about that.

 

[Redhawk94]

My hope is that OK is waiting to hear that BYU et al. are coming to the Big 12. If they say no then the sooners are gone... and then Texass, tech, and OSU too. That means if BYU does join then we'll be OK. If not... well I don't want to think about that.

Why would BYU join a conference with this much uncertainty?

 

[Cyclone46]

My hope is that OK is waiting to hear that BYU et al. are coming to the Big 12. If they say no then the sooners are gone... and then Texass, tech, and OSU too. That means if BYU does join then we'll be OK. If not... well I don't want to think about that.

You do not get BYU excited about joining the B12 by saying you are exploring options publicly. My guess is that OU is saying what they are saying because BYU said, "no thanks."

 

[DRCHIRO]

Why would BYU join a conference with this much uncertainty?

Because it would finally be in a BCS conference and they have no other conferece options.

They could create stability by joining. If it falls apart, they go back to being indy. Nothing hurt, nothing lost.

 

[Cyclone46]

Because it would finally be in a BCS conference and they have no other conferece options.

They could create stability by joining. If it falls apart, they go back to being indy. Nothing hurt, nothing lost.

I might be able to get off of my boat to try to help bail out the sinking cruise liner, but I get awfully wet and tired in the process especially if all the residents who should care a lot more than I do are jumping overboard when I pull up.

 

[Clone83]

You do not get BYU excited about joining the B12 by saying you are exploring options publicly. My guess is that OU is saying what they are saying because BYU said, "no thanks."

I think you are probably right. If not BYU something else related. Something changed today. I don't know where but someone here posted this tweet on CF this evening:

DeanBlevins
Source: "Boren is 1 cuttin' deal. He was very happy w where things were b4 showing up late 2 c Stoops & Castiglione this afternoon" #sooners

http://twitter.com/#!/deanblevins

It is hard to say exactly what that means, but statements late yesterday versus those late today are totally at odds.

I hope it doesn't linger long, because I need to take a break from this board and focus on other things. Will have to decide whether to even if things may be going on, but it is hard. Judging by everything said in that latest post at that UT board, like lawsuits, etc., it is probably necessary. Hard to say what is going to happen or end up.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1259825

 

[CyFan61]

I think it may be Stoops driving this. From what I've seen, he's excited with the prospect of the Pac-16.

 

[JUKEBOX]

Within the next three weeks OK and Okie State will likely go Pac 12. Texas says nothing publicly until they are officially gone. Big 12 collapses. Texas will then have to decide to go Pac 16 or indy. If Texas goes indy, Mizzou and KU probably get invites to Pac 16. If Texas goes Pac 16 Mizzou could go SEC and KU to Pac 16.

Texas publicly says it did everything it could to save the Big 12 but Nebby, Colorado, and Oklahoma killed it. ISU, K State, Baylor, Texas Tech fight it out for three spots in Big East. ISU and K State would be most attractive since they bring another state that is not Texas and are not as geographically isolated as the Texas schools from the East. Hopefully SEC is happy with 14 and Big 10 is happy with 12 for a while. If SEC and Big 10 poach the best ACC and Big East teams to get to 16 the remnants merge to form the fourth and definately worst BCS conference.

I don't understand why the remaining teams have to scatter. Why don't they keep the Big 12. Make Texas and Oklahoma pay outrageous exit fees and then invite the entire Big East or something to merge with them.

 

[Cyclone46]

I think you are probably right. If not BYU something else related. Something changed today. I don't know where but someone here posted this tweet on CF this evening:

It is hard to say exactly what that means, but statements late yesterday versus those late today are totally at odds.

I hope it doesn't linger long, because I need to take a break from this board and focus on other things. Will have to decide whether to even if things may be going on, but it is hard. Judging by everything said in that latest post at that UT board, like lawsuits, etc., it is probably necessary. Hard to say what is going to happen or end up.

I have to agree. If I had to guess, it would guess that no viable options were going to join the B12 to make it a conference that OU would feel is strong enough to compete for National Championships in. We needed a strong conference to keep OU and nobody was going to be brought to the table to make it such. IMO.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

I don't understand why the remaining teams have to scatter. Why don't they keep the Big 12. Make Texas and Oklahoma pay outrageous exit fees and then invite the entire Big East or something to merge with them.

If they have to pay for perceived loss of prestige and money, they would be paying a LOT!

 

[Cyclone46]

I don't understand why the remaining teams have to scatter. Why don't they keep the Big 12. Make Texas and Oklahoma pay outrageous exit fees and then invite the entire Big East or something to merge with them.

Without OU and Texas, unfortunately, the B12 becomes rather irrelevant. They are anchor teams that brought legitimacy and national fan base/recognition.

 

[tm3308]

I don't understand why the remaining teams have to scatter. Why don't they keep the Big 12. Make Texas and Oklahoma pay outrageous exit fees and then invite the entire Big East or something to merge with them.

Because if Texas and OU bolted, there would be no BCS bid. Those two schools are now alone in driving the BCS bus for the conference. A&M, while not overly productive on the field, is a cash cow in its own right. Nebraska is a national brand that is no longer in the Big 12. It's Texas and OU. That's it, as far as major networks will be concerned when it comes time to renegotiate.

This conference has been held together with band-aids and duct tape for over a year now. Adding more band-aids won't solve the problem.

I hope OU stays put. But in the event that OU and Texas both left, it wouldn't be wise to try and keep the Big 12 together.

 

[JUKEBOX]

Because if Texas and OU bolted, there would be no BCS bid. Those two schools are now alone in driving the BCS bus for the conference. A&M, while not overly productive on the field, is a cash cow in its own right. Nebraska is a national brand that is no longer in the Big 12. It's Texas and OU. That's it, as far as major networks will be concerned when it comes time to renegotiate.

This conference has been held together with band-aids and duct tape for over a year now. Adding more band-aids won't solve the problem.

I hope OU stays put. But in the event that OU and Texas both left, it wouldn't be wise to try and keep the Big 12 together.

Even temporarily, just to rake in the exit money from Texas and Oklahoma?

 

[Chipper]

My hope is that OK is waiting to hear that BYU et al. are coming to the Big 12. If they say no then the sooners are gone... and then Texass, tech, and OSU too. That means if BYU does join then we'll be OK. If not... well I don't want to think about that.

I'm guessing BYU gave the,"Thanks, but no thanks."

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Even temporarily, just to rake in the exit money from Texas and Oklahoma?

That would require KU, KSU, MU, ISU, and BU to remain solid. If this goes down, I find it hard to believe all 5 will hold out until July 1. The potential losses due to being left out are greater than the exit fees we could collect and split 5 ways.

 

[shawn_200m]

Even temporarily, just to rake in the exit money from Texas and Oklahoma?

problem is that when they go, they'll be taking Tech and OSU with them, that only leaves 5 schools left. I'm not sure about the specifics, but 5 schools may not be enough to enforce the conference by-laws.

 

[bostrem00]

Even temporarily, just to rake in the exit money from Texas and Oklahoma?

Consider the source....(Check profile pic)

 

[JUKEBOX]

Does anyone honestly think Mizzou gets into the SEC as well? Texas A&M barely got accepted and they are far better academically and have a much stronger athletic tradition.

 

[Cyclone46]

Even temporarily, just to rake in the exit money from Texas and Oklahoma?

And wait long enough to make one payout to be left with no home as all other conferences pick out teams from the B12 until Baylor and ISU are left. We would get a huge check as we play in Conference USA.

By the way, good luck getting anybody to pay anything if the whole thing falls apart.