I mean you’re hitting on the transfers, what do you think is going to happen?Lol, "not every single one will pan out." As if we've whiffed on like one kid, instead of almost literally all of them.
I mean you’re hitting on the transfers, what do you think is going to happen?Lol, "not every single one will pan out." As if we've whiffed on like one kid, instead of almost literally all of them.
Same here. How can a McDonald's HS All-American be this much of a rumblin'-bumblin' player? I mean, each time he took the court he looked genuinely awkward without any kind of game whatsoever. Yes, he's young, but to not show ANYTHING, with the resume he came in with? I still don't get it, to be honest. Still, I'll wish him well at his next stop, obviously...so long as it's not EIU (which seems unlikely).
On the flip side I knew Haliburton would be an NBA starter the very first game I saw him play at ISU with that gigantic wingspan and Magic Johnson level passing skill…they looked at him and said “3 star”.
I didn’t need to be an actual scout, just watching 3 decades of nba and seeing him one time was enough.
Good point. For as disappointing as many of our HS recruits have been, we have to be a top 5 school in the country going back to Fred in terms of success with transfers. We've hit the motherlode time and again there. Can't have everything.I mean you’re hitting on the transfers, what do you think is going to happen?
Yeah the 5 star label gave me higher expectations. Although I could see Omaha as a Rob Jones type player with a higher ceiling if he has the right staff to develop him.Same here. How can a McDonald's HS All-American be this much of a rumblin'-bumblin' player? I mean, each time he took the court he looked genuinely awkward without any kind of game whatsoever. Yes, he's young, but to not show ANYTHING, with the resume he came in with? I still don't get it, to be honest. Still, I'll wish him well at his next stop, obviously...so long as it's not EIU (which seems unlikely).
That's a bit strong. They brought in 5 freshmen (including JT) and 3? transfers to compliment the starters that were already here. They can't rotate 13.People can say whatever they want, but ISU had the highest rated recruiting class in its history less than 18 months ago and all but one of them are about to be gone. That is a failure. Either they whiffed on evaluation or they whiffed on development.
If this is how it's going to be, why bother recruiting high school kids at all? Isn't it a massive waste of time and effort? How can any recruit or parent take you seriously when almost every single freshman you've recruited, you've run off?
More like a better player came along. That’s the downside for these players in the NIL era. Just business nowThey invited these guys into their program and within 12 months have asked them to leave. By definition you have either an evaluation or development problem.
Yeah the 5 star label gave me higher expectations. Although I could see Omaha as a Rob Jones type player with a higher ceiling if he has the right staff to develop him.
They invited these guys into their program and within 12 months have asked them to leave. By definition you have either an evaluation or development problem.
Who says they were run off? Maybe they decided on their own they didn’t want to stay.People can say whatever they want, but ISU had the highest rated recruiting class in its history less than 18 months ago and all but one of them are about to be gone. That is a failure. Either they whiffed on evaluation or they whiffed on development.
If this is how it's going to be, why bother recruiting high school kids at all? Isn't it a massive waste of time and effort? How can any recruit or parent take you seriously when almost every single freshman you've recruited, you've run off?
Who says they were run off? Maybe they decided on their own they didn’t want to stay.
This would have mattered ten years ago. These days I would rather have the top ten transfer class.People can say whatever they want, but ISU had the highest rated recruiting class in its history less than 18 months ago and all but one of them are about to be gone. That is a failure. Either they whiffed on evaluation or they whiffed on development.
If this is how it's going to be, why bother recruiting high school kids at all? Isn't it a massive waste of time and effort? How can any recruit or parent take you seriously when almost every single freshman you've recruited, you've run off?
Most of the 5-stars KU has brought in have been immediate contributors and in many (most?) cases, bona fide stars. Our only 5-star recruit turns out to be a development project. Is the McDonald's thing that haphazard in assessing talent? I mean a year ago, folks on here were talking about Omaha as a one-and-done like KU normally gets, but clearly he was/is nowhere near that kind of polish. If nothing else, it makes me take McDonald's AA status a lot less seriously than I once did.KU has had several top recruits not turn out to be a good fit
Omaha would be best at a program that doesn’t require defensive execution and that plays pace and space on offense
Second-biggest bust, corrected. You know the #1.This would have mattered ten years ago. These days I would rather have the top ten transfer class.
Omaha will go down as the biggest bust in Iowa State history if he leaves. Which is fine with me as long as we get more Milons and Curtis Jones type players
It was analysts and such that were saying that, so of course it gets repeated here.Most of the 5-stars KU has brought in have been immediate contributors and in many (most?) cases, bona fide stars. Our only 5-star recruit turns out to be a development project. Is the McDonald's thing that haphazard in assessing talent? I mean a year ago, folks on here were talking about Omaha as a one-and-done like KU normally gets, but clearly he was/is nowhere near that kind of polish. If nothing else, it makes me take McDonald's AA status a lot less seriously than I once did.
Second-biggest bust, corrected. You know the #1.
Xavier Foster says hi.This would have mattered ten years ago. These days I would rather have the top ten transfer class.
Omaha will go down as the biggest bust in Iowa State history if he leaves. Which is fine with me as long as we get more Milons and Curtis Jones type players
Xavier Foster says hi.
Second-biggest bust, corrected. You know the #1.