One and done, what is your opinion?

isu81

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He trolled a lot of people. I think it's funny how many fell for it. He loved every minute of it.

Guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. Actually, glad it was a troll-couldn't believe even he was that slimy. I was thinking "unfair"? The Morgan/McDermott years here were unfair....
 

TurbulentEddie

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The NBA can (and will) do what it wants. Even if the age requirement rule were overturned, I think GMs would still think twice (maybe even collude on an unwritten age requirement rule) before ever drafting out of HS because again of the success of the rule. To that extent, here's what I'd like to see the NCAA do:

Work with the NBA and overseas leagues to develop a/some non-profit consulting firm(s), approved by the NCAA, to act as an agent for high school students. They would negotiate potential contracts with NBDL/overseas teams and allow students to test the waters without ruining their eligibility.

Right now, a 17-18 y.o. has to basically decide on their own (with NCAA coaches breathing down their necks) what option is best. It's what makes the "high-level recruits have a choice" argument somewhat of a sham (though I side more with that argument than "pay the players"). How does a high school student have a choice when they can't even explore their options, via an agent or contacting pro teams, without losing their eligibility?

In the end, though, I think most high level players will still go to college. Remember, it's not just tuition, housing, etc. that's getting paid for them, they're also getting access to top notch coaching, facilities, conditioning, and (e.g. with a coach like Hoiberg) networking for free.
 

intrepid27

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The one thing I really hate about the one and done situation is the Kentucky syndrome. They recruit basically the top 5 players ever year because they almost always play only one year and are gone.

That's ridiculous.

Maybe institute some disincentives to recruiting THAT many one and dones. Right now it doesn't hurt Kentucky's graduation rates if they stay in "good standing" for their one year. Maybe set a limit and have it hit their grad rate if more than 2 or 3 go pro after one year.

Won't the NCAA graduation rate requirements slow this down at some point?
 

cykadelic2

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What do you think of one and done players? Is it good or bad for CBB? Do you think a rule needs to be instituted to keep players longer or should we go back to when high schoolers could go straight to the NBA? Just thinking about this after seeing Wiggins, Parker, and Randle dominate last night.

A better alternative for both the NBA and CBB:

HS SRs can choose one year of D-League (if they can make a team) or two years of CBB before becoming eligible for the NBA Draft.

Also, if you aren't a first round pick after your 2nd or 3rd year of CBB, you cannot play in the NBA the following season. You either return to CBB or play one yr of D-League.

The NBA doesn't want to scout HS players and draft them straight out of HS. CBB doesn't want one-and-done. The above would serve both parties very well.
 
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coolerifyoudid

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Some interesting notes about early entry:

[h=3]"Early entry" player[edit][/h]Players who are not automatically eligible, but wish to be drafted, must declare their eligibility no later than 60 days before the draft.[SUP][14][/SUP] After this date, "early entry" players may attend NBA pre-draft camps and individual team workouts to show off their skills and obtain feedback regarding their draft positions. Under the CBA, a player may withdraw his name from consideration from the draft at any time before the final declaration date, which is 10 days before the draft.[SUP][15][/SUP] However, the NCAA adopted a rule that took effect in August 2009 that requires players at its member institutions to withdraw no later than May 8 to retain their college eligibility; the first draft affected by this rule was the 2010 draft.[SUP][16][/SUP] In 2011, the NCAA further shortened its timeline for players to withdraw and retain eligibility; the deadline now falls one day before the start of the spring signing period for men's basketball, which occurs in April.[SUP][17][/SUP] A player who declares for the draft will lose his college eligibility, even if he is not drafted, if any of the following is true:

  • The player signs with an agent.[SUP][18][/SUP]
  • The player has declared for and withdrawn from a previous draft. Although the NBA collective bargaining agreement allows a player to withdraw twice,[SUP][15][/SUP] the NCAA only allows a player to enter the draft once without losing eligibility.[SUP][17][/SUP]
[SUP]I knew the agent part, but never realized that you could only declare and withdraw from the draft one time before being ruled ineligible to return to your college team. [/SUP]
 

IASTATE4LIFE

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correct me if I am wrong. At Iowa State if you Flunk your first fall semester, you get placed on academic probation, with the spring and summer sessions to bring your grades up to maintain the ability to be eligible the next fall semester. So, if this is true, Can't a one and done player never go to class in the fall, Fail everything, then never go to class in the spring, fail everything again, be kicked out of school and just go to the NBA with never actually going to any classes? How is that at all a student/athlete experience?
 

TurbulentEddie

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correct me if I am wrong. At Iowa State if you Flunk your first fall semester, you get placed on academic probation, with the spring and summer sessions to bring your grades up to maintain the ability to be eligible the next fall semester. So, if this is true, Can't a one and done player never go to class in the fall, Fail everything, then never go to class in the spring, fail everything again, be kicked out of school and just go to the NBA with never actually going to any classes? How is that at all a student/athlete experience?
One and done could do that, but it would screw over the school's APR if enough do it.
 

Cyhart

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Im not big on mandates in general, so id probably vote for no "rule".

Also, kids getting to leave early has tradionally helped ISU.