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Yep pretty awesome if you ask me, clearly he want's what is best for both the school and his team.
One Job Rhoads is interested in
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JP knows that if he loses Rhoads he will be the fall guy unless it's a great job that CPR takes. JP has self-preservation as a motive above and beyond the fact that we have a great coach.
Paul isn't leaving without a fight when the time comes. We also know that fans have to step up or JP can just point the finger at us and he would have a point...assuming we don't step up.
I think he'll be here a LONG time. Paul knows that increasing his salary doesn't increase wins. Money needs to become available to fund the program, not just CPR. Paul and JP both know this as stated in earlier posts.
Paul isn't leaving without a fight when the time comes. We also know that fans have to step up or JP can just point the finger at us and he would have a point...assuming we don't step up.
I think he'll be here a LONG time. Paul knows that increasing his salary doesn't increase wins. Money needs to become available to fund the program, not just CPR. Paul and JP both know this as stated in earlier posts.
I believe his 2nd favorite team is Florida as he is from Florida. I'm guessing he assumes that Paul won't be here forever so if he is going to leave, might as well go to his second favorite school. Can't say I blame him. If Rhoads leaves I want him to coach Notre Dame!
Because he will leave eventually so as a Gator fan I would rather him go to a team I like and can cheer him on to MULTIPLE National Championships
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Couple of things I have been thinking about lately:
1. You don't throw your name in the ring twice for a job that you plan on leaving after a few years. Rhoads wanted the job before Chizik was hired and then contacted JP again after Chizik bolted. He sat down and had something like a 4hr conversation (IIRC) with JP and presented him with his plan to succeed at ISU. You don't do that if you see this job as a passing through point and not somewhere you want to hang your hat for the long haul.
2. Paul wants to make sure that the football team has the best possible facilities, not just for his success, but for the success of the kids. Paul has shown that he cares about the kids on and off the field. He wants to make sure that they have the best of the best. Will this help in recruiting, sure, but it's not just that. He is looking out for the welfare of the team and not just something that he can show off to recruits.
1. You don't throw your name in the ring twice for a job that you plan on leaving after a few years. Rhoads wanted the job before Chizik was hired and then contacted JP again after Chizik bolted. He sat down and had something like a 4hr conversation (IIRC) with JP and presented him with his plan to succeed at ISU. You don't do that if you see this job as a passing through point and not somewhere you want to hang your hat for the long haul.
2. Paul wants to make sure that the football team has the best possible facilities, not just for his success, but for the success of the kids. Paul has shown that he cares about the kids on and off the field. He wants to make sure that they have the best of the best. Will this help in recruiting, sure, but it's not just that. He is looking out for the welfare of the team and not just something that he can show off to recruits.
The key is open communication. CPR and JP talk all the time about how to keep the "program" together and improving. RELAX.
Great response. Love Rhoads. I really do think he's just one of those guys that's a good fit here, thinks he can accomplish his goals here, and for many reasons really isn't in a hurry to leave.
That said, one thing we all need to remember is that coaches are always "firmly entrenched"...until they aren't. He's a smart guy and if he would ever consider another job he's not going to drop any hints about that until it actually happens. So I think we have to take any public statements with a grain of salt.
But like I said, I agree with most that he just seems to be an "Iowa State" guy and doesn't give the vibe of someone looking to go elsewhere. What I really hope he doesn't start doing is leveraging rumors every offseason to squeeze another few hundred grand out of ISU when he really has no intention of leaving anyway (are you listening, Ferentz?).
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I think in the end, a lot of it is going to depend on weather or not Rhoads wants an easier shot at the National Championship. There is a lot of pressure at the big schools to win. This equates to not much job security. Two years of 8 wins or less at a Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, Auburn, Alabama, etc. and you are done for. As proven by KF, you can still get paid pretty well and you have a lot more room as far as wins and losses go before you are considered being on the hot seat. The only other problem would be not getting over the hump that Dan Mac couldn't. I think if Rhoads ever got ISU to a BCS game, he'd have to have a big scandal in house or drop right back to the bottom and not get out, to ever be let go. This is obviously all hope on my part, but there has to be something said for building your own program. Hayden Fry became a college football legend and he never won a National Championship at Iowa.
CPR will coach Iowa next, as soon as ferentz becomes HC of the steelers.
I'm not too concern about him leaving real soon.
I'm not too concern about him leaving real soon.
I can't believe you would say this on a Cyclone message board. Florida can pretty much have their pick from a number of good, high profile coaches. Why would you not want Rhoads to stay at Iowa State as long as possible and have Florida pick another high profile coach? Possibly the best thing to come along for our football program in years and you WANT him to leave after a year or two?! Get the **** out!
If he leaves ISU I'll wish him the best but I won't be cheering him on at another school. Especially Florida.
Pretending that Rhoads will never leave isn't going to make him magically stay... Even the "loyal" McCarney was looking to get out, what makes you think Rhoads is any different than any other college football coach that has ever coached? If he keeps this up he will leave, I might as well hope he goes to another team I like.... Relax
As long as Coach Rhoads is here he will want what is best for the ISU football program because he loves ISU and it is also what is best for him. That being said I think that If a top 10 maybe even 15 program in a BCS conference comes a courting, he will seriously consider moving on. If a top 5 program like Texas, Ohio State, Florida or a few others come calling he will be gone. I hope he is our Hayden Fry or Bill Snyder but guys like that are rare and those guys also never got offers from top 5 programs.
I'm usually an optimist, I have NEVER thought ISU wasn't going to win a game before the game started. In the case of a coach staying or leaving I am a realist.
I'm usually an optimist, I have NEVER thought ISU wasn't going to win a game before the game started. In the case of a coach staying or leaving I am a realist.
No kidding, Rhoads can turn ISU into a legitimate program if he stays here for the long haul. Have some faith people!
Im not sure what sort of insider knowledge you have, but this is the first time I have ever heard that McCarney was looking at getting out of ISU. Pretty much everything I have ever heard about the guy speaks to the contrary.
I'm not pretending he'll never leave. I really don't think it's something we need to plan on right now though. Greg Schiano has done similar things at Rutgers and he's still there. If you look at the big coaching jobs, which is what I think it would take for him to leave, he hasn't really been mentioned yet. Ohio State didn't look at him, and it doesn't sound like he's a candidate for Penn State either. Those are two jobs I would have been worried about him taking if he was offered.
In addition to Penn State and Ohio State, I could see him leaving for an LSU, Alabama, possibly Tennessee, Florida State, or even your precious Florida if they came calling. But I don't see him leaving Iowa State for many other places.
