Otzelberger to Indiana?

[Nor'MidWester]

We've been very lucky to have a lot of players who have been willing to take a smaller salary to stay or come to Iowa State, we're "lucky" because we have great coaches and staffs (who btw are also taking less money to stay at ISU). At some point that might not be the case, I'm not convinced the 20 mil from the ADs will mean we'll stop having to donate. So we gotta keep up the good work and increasing that budget every year.

 

[Cyclonepride]

We've been very lucky to have a lot of players who have been willing to take a smaller salary to stay or come to Iowa State, we're "lucky" because we have great coaches and staffs (who btw are also taking less money to stay at ISU). At some point that might not be the case, I'm not convinced the 20 mil from the ADs will mean we'll stop having to donate. So we gotta keep up the good work and increasing that budget every year.

I think we have a formula for outperforming our resources. Create a great atmosphere, culture and fan/community support for our coaches and teams, hire coaches that want to be here and take care of them as well as you can, and have an AD that is an expert at the previous three items.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Just want to let you know that the laugh is already on us. Not specifically us, but every school not in the Big 10 or SEC or named Notre Dame.

Keep that in mind when disparaging the Iowa MBB job because its bottom 1/3 of BIG

Basketball hierarchy is liable to change in the sense the mediocre programs of P2 will still climb with respect to those outside the P2

The most direct ways are to pay to grab coaches, as well as increase the salary cap in 4 years while shutting off inducement NIL . They can do $30 million as their TV money increases. Not many outside the P2 can.

Then they take a bigger cut of the new CBB postseason TV deal in 2032 (along with CFP).

 

[NY Chicago Fan]

Who was worried about this?

I was joking

 

[NY Chicago Fan]

Keep that in mind when disparaging the Iowa MBB job because its bottom 1/3 of BIG

Basketball hierarchy is liable to change in the sense the mediocre programs of P2 will still climb with respect to those outside the P2

The most direct ways are to pay to grab coaches, as well as increase the salary cap in 4 years while shutting off inducement NIL . They can do $30 million as their TV money increases. Not many outside the P2 can.

Then they take a bigger cut of the new CBB postseason TV deal in 2032 (along with CFP).

It will suck of SEC and Big10 both become dominate due to more $s to pay players and coaches

That said, in a 16-20 Team League, even if all the Teams are better than majority in other leagues, there still has to be a bottom 1/3 of that league. Not going to be a lot of fun to be the Teams stuck at the bottom with no shot at conference championships or winning conf records. Sure they have more money but it's not going to be an even field within the conference due to NIL deltas

 

[FinalFourCy]

That said, in a 16-20 Team League, even if all the Teams are better than majority in other leagues, there still has to be a bottom 1/3 of that league. Not going to be a lot of fun to be the Teams stuck at the bottom with no shot at conference championships or winning conf records. Sure they have more money but it's not going to be an even field within the conference due to NIL deltas

Lol

You mean like P2 teams that go 6-12 in conference play, finishing 14th out of 16 teams, getting invites to the tournament over midmajors that won far more?

It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t even the field within the conference- those bottom 1/3 P2 teams will still be a level above those outside the P2


Think of it this way, how many midmajors that are at the top in resources of their conference would trade with Iowa St the last 25 years? Or conversely, there’s a reason Iowa St didn’t seek out a lesser conference in order to better compete for conference titles.

And that’s in an era in which resources mattered less, with less revenue disparities.

Player compensation in an era of the P2 making double will disrupt basketball more than football. Unlike in football, improvement in access to the postseason won’t compensate for the revenue disparity, in fact postseason access for non-P2 is likely to go down or be marginalized in value when the new deal comes in 2032. And unlike in football, there are a lot of non-P2 schools that are prominent in basketball, so more status damage will occur

 

[NY Chicago Fan]

Lol

You mean like P2 teams that go 6-12 in conference play, finishing 14th out of 16 teams, getting invites to the tournament over midmajors that won far more?

It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t even the field within the conference- those bottom 1/3 P2 teams will still be a level above those outside the P2


Think of it this way, how many midmajors that are at the top in resources of their conference would trade with Iowa St the last 25 years? Or conversely, there’s a reason Iowa St didn’t seek out a lesser conference in order to better compete for conference titles.

And that’s in an era in which resources mattered less, with less revenue disparities.

Player compensation in an era of the P2 making double will disrupt basketball more than football. Unlike in football, improvement in access to the postseason won’t compensate for the revenue disparity, in fact postseason access for non-P2 is likely to go down or be marginalized in value when the new deal comes in 2032. And unlike in football, there are a lot of non-P2 schools that are prominent in basketball, so more status damage will occur

sure the bottom P2 Teams will be above the outside P2, that was not my point

But going 6-12 in conf play and finishing at the bottom every year is going to suck regardless if you make the tournament

For the record, I refuse to acknowledge that the tournament added 4 teams and 2 games on Tuesday

"Iowa St didn’t seek out a lesser conference in order to better compete for conference titles." ...because they are competitive for conf titles. I don't think all the Teams in Big12 and SEC will have any hope of that

 

[Dopey]

Just want to let you know that the laugh is already on us. Not specifically us, but every school not in the Big 10 or SEC or named Notre Dame.

I do think college basketball survives a bit longer. There's too much talent to go around for the 10-15 top NIL programs to hoard all of it.

Couple in the "1 & dones", and i don't think the little guy is as bleak of a position as it is in football.

I hope

 

[Al_4_State]

Lol

You mean like P2 teams that go 6-12 in conference play, finishing 14th out of 16 teams, getting invites to the tournament over midmajors that won far more?

It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t even the field within the conference- those bottom 1/3 P2 teams will still be a level above those outside the P2


Think of it this way, how many midmajors that are at the top in resources of their conference would trade with Iowa St the last 25 years? Or conversely, there’s a reason Iowa St didn’t seek out a lesser conference in order to better compete for conference titles.

And that’s in an era in which resources mattered less, with less revenue disparities.

Player compensation in an era of the P2 making double will disrupt basketball more than football. Unlike in football, improvement in access to the postseason won’t compensate for the revenue disparity, in fact postseason access for non-P2 is likely to go down or be marginalized in value when the new deal comes in 2032. And unlike in football, there are a lot of non-P2 schools that are prominent in basketball, so more status damage will occur

You keep saying like this the reaper isn't coming for the bottom 2/3rds of the Big 10 and bottom 1/2 of the SEC.

Once those leagues adopt unequal revenue sharing, those schools won't have the kind of financial advantage they do now.

The big boys will, but they always did.

 

[BryceC]

IU burners not dropping the subject

Freezing cold takes here.

 

[BryceC]

I do think college basketball survives a bit longer. There's too much talent to go around for the 10-15 top NIL programs to hoard all of it.

Couple in the "1 & dones", and i don't think the little guy is as bleak of a position as it is in football.

I hope

Honestly what is really dead in the water is mid-majors, they are just going to get robbed of their best talent every single year.