Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks
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thats just the Alliance announcement, The Pac said they will decide whether or not to expand in the next couple weeks. That will be separate....possibly.
I mean from what people are reporting, if they are correct the alliance is a scheduling thing, a hey we wont poach your schools thing, and we are in agreement on the playoff future thing. Possibly on how they are going to divide up the Big 12 thing, but probably not, that will be for each conference to do on their own. LOL
Cleanest way for this to work is the Pac-12 to add two schools so they’re all the same size, unless the B1G is taking ISU and KU and the Pac is adding Tech/OSU/KSU/one more (with WVU to the ACC). That seems too good to be true IMO.
One of the few outcomes worse than no expansion at all is a Pac-14 that adds Tech and OSU. No I don’t think this will happen but if they are all playing exactly 2 games a year then it makes sense for them all to be the same size or the math doesn’t work. Maybe there will be a Pac-14 with ISU and KU…
I don't read that in any way that they'd absolutely need to expand to have a scheduling agreement.
The Yahoo report said one concept is that each team would play one OOC game against each of the other leagues per year. That math doesn’t work at the moment.
Welp, this effectively ends the CyHawk football series.
Pac-12 is a huge stickler for academics. ISU/Iowa as an “alliance” game will have some appeal to the Pac12. Ku/ISU for the AAU component makes sense.
We’ve lost our 3 biggest games every year in the last month. Guess our rivals now are UNI with marquee games against UCF. We are ******.
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Still makes the most since for inventory/tv purposes for them all to get to 16. (in order of preference) KU/ISU/KSU<look out for the KU/KSU combo here though, OSU, Tech, and they might be nice and stomach either TCU/BYU. Big 10 adds 2 of (in order of preference) KU/ISU/KSU/UConn, ACC gets (in order of preference) WVU/UConn. Rotate the games so 2 conferences will have 2 league crossover opponents each year while one has only 1 crossover. Rotate that so every 2 out of 3 years each conference will have 2 crossovers. That’s a separate TV package, a bunch of games (too tired now to do the math 48 possibly) involving almost all teams people have at least heard of. That would be a nice package for some extra tv $$$ to bid out to the networks.
Though, I would not be shocked to hear OSU and TTU to the PAC and the rest except for maybe WVU left out. Seems to be a ton more chatter coming out of especially TTU but also OSU than coming from further north like from ISU. I think that the radio silence is more of a sign of lack of options than some 4D chess game being played by Pollard etc. Where there is the most smoke, there tends to be the most fire. That is how these things have always seemed to work IMO. OuT started with a leak to a paper and a few weeks later there was a big ol’ fire with them off to the SEC. These moves while being planned for ages move lightening quick once the chatter heats up. Hope I’m wrong but I am concerned.
From what I can glean, Missouri was unsettled by Texas AD DeLoss Dodds obnoxious comments about fellow conference members. He once said Texas worst year was better than Missouri’s best year. In the 10 years which followed Missouri won more games in the SEC than Texas won the in the Big 12
But the breaking point for MU came when OU president David Boran said Oklahoma would “not be a wallflower” in conference realignment. Spooked by what they saw as the inevitable demise of the Big 12, Missouri leadership looked for the exit. With the Big Ten out of the picture, MU was lucky to jump on the SEC train.
I guess I am in the super minority. I don't want to go to the Pac-12 unless there are others going with us. The Pac-12 culture is so much different. It is far away too. Remember the Pac-12 / Big-12 basketball challenge? I do. It was boring. The Pac-12 fans don't care much about football or basketball. Go on their forums as an example. First, you may have a hard time finding the forum to start. Then, they post like 2 messages a day.
I'll take the passion of West Virginia, Texas Tech, or any other Big 12 fans any day over 80% of the Pac-12. I know the money won't be there not being in a power league but adding a few schools and BYU would make it hopefully a fun conference of equals.
I'll take the passion of West Virginia, Texas Tech, or any other Big 12 fans any day over 80% of the Pac-12. I know the money won't be there not being in a power league but adding a few schools and BYU would make it hopefully a fun conference of equals.
Staying home and not working is fun also, that is until the bills come due. I bet Houston and Cincinnati are just having a ball playing at Tulane and East Carolina in front of 30,000 fans on a good day, while the school is pumping in tens of millions of dollars to keep their programs afloat.
I wholeheartedly agree, though I would change that "reevaluate" to "evaluate", as they really couldn't add anyone from the Big 12 right now even if they wanted to (barring a hugely lucrative deal given to that team).
From everything I've read, all the steps currently being taken have been designed to balance the SEC's recent attempt at establishing more control over the entire sport. Once that has been settled (to the greatest degree it can be), they can take their time in evaluations as the exits for OU and UT have to sort out before anything can be done anyway.
People.. the B1G is subtracting a conference game to add a game against alliance schools. Iowa State vs. Iowa isn’t going anywhere.
2 games against alliance schools. Which means 6 home games every other year if they keep Cy-Hawk. We've been told that is unacceptable. Cy-Hawk would be gone unless they change that mindset.
Seems like it's more about wresting control from ESPN. I know they're locked at the hip, but once the CFP goes to the open market and other players are free to bid, ESPN's clout shrinks pretty quick.
