Paul Shirley in the DMR about end of 2001 season

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Who cares if Shirley is arrogant? That would make him right in line with 95% of our athletes.

Who cares if he is a "pathetic crybaby loser"? If you don't want to read his stuff, don't. Again, the DMR published this. I thought it was interesting as an insight into that team. It would be an interesting insight into Shirley if we didn't already know Paul Shirley is about Paul Shirley.
 

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Criticize a blogger because he is writing about himself. Too self centered. Criticize a blogger because he is not writing about himself and obviously knows nothing about the topic. Another internet favorite.

It is very easy to get out there and be critical on the web hiding behind an Alice in Wonderland avatar isn't it? Paul was there when all this happened. He likely knows a little bit about it, and most believe he is being generous with his comments. I bet you have never met Paul Shirley, but you seem to think throwing out your expert judgement on his motives is the right thing to do. The passive aggresiveness of the internet wears on me sometimes.

Perhaps you missed the part where I said that is the nature of blogs. But definitely continue your rant.

My Alice in Wonderland avatar is about something you don't know about, but is none of your business. Yes, Paul definitely knows about it. And is using it to get attention at a time that is a disservice to our team, to put the attention on himself. To talk about what was taken from him. Poor Paul.
 

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Note to paul shirley- Mark Emmert (register sports editor)and the dsm register are not your friend and this isn't a good first step in reviving your writing career.

Either your too dumb to realize you're being used by the register or you're just taking another cheap shot at LE.

Question to the register- did you pay Paul Shirley for this piece?
 

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Not his book - I didn't waste the time (and, more to the point, money) to read it after reading his blog and when he used to write for ESPN. I disagree, everything is about Paul Shirley and how things affect him. While that may be the nature of blogs, he is one of the more arrogant people whose writing I've ever read.
I hardly ever dissagree with Angie -- but on this I strongly disagree.
 
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I didn't find him arrogant at all. The point of the blog was his NBA experience, so he did talk about himself as the subject, but not arrogantly. He just had his own perspective.

Paul Shirley at his most arrogant:

Paul Shirley: Haiti comments get blogger fired from ESPN - CSMonitor.com

Dear Haitians –
First of all, kudos on developing the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your commitment to human rights, infrastructure, and birth control should be applauded.
As we prepare to assist you in this difficult time, a polite request: If it’s possible, could you not re-build your island home in the image of its predecessor? Could you not resort to the creation of flimsy shanty- and shack-towns? And could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Sincerely,
The Rest of the World
 

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I have always found Shirley to be an equal opportunity jerk -- he has a pretty self-depricating humor and will make fun of himself as much as others.

Edit - not that I really agree with all of his stuff, i.e. Haiti
 

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I don't understand how everyone is so upset over this. If anything, this is the most accurate recount of the events we have heard yet. Everyone always ******* and moans and wants to know more, they want to know the why, then when they do and it's not what they wanted to hear they attack the source. I remember this season very well as a number of these guys, including Paul were among my friends in school. The chemisty on that team was TERRIBLE. Larry said himself on Murph and Andy that the pressure was nuts that year and he couldn't wait for the season to be over. I really think it was the perfect storm of mental and physical exhaustion. That team was already very thin and hit with injuries, both nagging and somewhat serious, the whole year. Add those minutes with a team that really didn't like eachother then stir it up with a coach on the verge of a mental breakdown and you have the Baylor and Hampton losses... We can't go back and change history to make it all rainbows and unicorns, so stop trying.
 
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I don't understand how everyone is so upset over this. If anything, this is the most accurate recount of the events we have heard yet. Everyone always ******* and moans and wants to know more, they want to know the why, then when they do and it's not what they wanted to hear they attack the source. I remember this season very well as a number of these guys, including Paul were among my friends in school. The chemisty on that team was TERRIBLE. Larry said himself on Murph and Andy that the pressure was nuts that year and he couldn't wait for the season to be over. I really think it was the perfect storm of mental and physical exhaustion. That team was already very thin and hit with injuries, both nagging and somewhat serious, the whole year. Add those minutes with a team that really didn't like eachother then stir it up with a coach on the verge of a mental breakdown and you have the Baylor and Hampton losses... We can't go back and change history to make it all rainbows and unicorns, so stop trying.

Well said! I agree...are about 15-20 people who know MOST of the story...and Paul is one of them. Like I said earlier, I don't see this as sour grapes...and I believe Paul can be frustrated by how it all worked out.

This insight is also a reminder why I love Hoiberg/Rhoads and the mentality they have and put to their team. Honestly, if we win or lose tonight, I am probably more proud of this team that that team Paul was on. I had three of the players come over to me the other day at the selection show to intentionally say hello to my daughter who'd they'd met before....just classy guys!
 
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This insight is also a reminder why I love Hoiberg/Rhoads and the mentality they have and put to their team. Honestly, if we win or lose tonight, I am probably more proud of this team that that team Paul was on. I had three of the players come over to me the other day at the selection show to intentionally say hello to my daughter who'd they'd met before....just classy guys!


and THIS was the entire point of the blog... trust me, he could have written MUCH MUCH worse
 
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Whether he was "wrong" or not doesn't change the fact that it was the epitome of arrogance.

I just have to keep quoting you, because you're right all over the place.
 

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Are you looking for a political thread?

This thing has an over/under of 5.5 posts before it goes all the way over the edge of the cliff.

Not at all. This is pure geography. New Orleans is in a position to be destroyed by flooding and hurricanes time and again, they are below sea level. Does PS spew at them that they need to learn to use a condom?