Poll: KJ's Status
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I'm kind of on all sides here. Of course I dislike what's going on with our wrestling program. I want KJ and the wrestlers to be successful, and when they aren't, I get frustrated.
At the same time, it's EXTREMELY annoying when posters only show up in the lowest of the low times. Some people are rival fans only coming around to either rub in the fact that we aren't wrestling well, but others appear to be ISU fans that are much more active when ISU is doing poorly, and much less active, even absent, when ISU succeeds.
For instance, this thread has 40 replies (41 with mine, I think) in 1 day. As a reference point, it took 3 days for a thread congratulating Kyven Gadson on his national title to reach that many posts. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Just gets tiresome, especially for the most active posters like buf and Judoka I imagine, when they're supporting the team constantly and creating/maintaining threads letting everyone who cares know how the team is doing, good or bad.
Not that they need me to speak for them, but I wanted to say my piece. It's absolutely fine to be down on the program, especially now, but maybe stop by occasionally when things are going well, too.
At the same time, it's EXTREMELY annoying when posters only show up in the lowest of the low times. Some people are rival fans only coming around to either rub in the fact that we aren't wrestling well, but others appear to be ISU fans that are much more active when ISU is doing poorly, and much less active, even absent, when ISU succeeds.
For instance, this thread has 40 replies (41 with mine, I think) in 1 day. As a reference point, it took 3 days for a thread congratulating Kyven Gadson on his national title to reach that many posts. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Just gets tiresome, especially for the most active posters like buf and Judoka I imagine, when they're supporting the team constantly and creating/maintaining threads letting everyone who cares know how the team is doing, good or bad.
Not that they need me to speak for them, but I wanted to say my piece. It's absolutely fine to be down on the program, especially now, but maybe stop by occasionally when things are going well, too.
Can someone not like both teams? I'm also a fan of UNI. And I don't **** talk ISU. I only say we need a change at coach.
I think there are lots of people who like both or all three teams. I don't think many of them post on message boards.
Hell, I've got nothing against UNI. But if I went over to PantherNation and started posting with an ISU bent I'd get rightfully chased off.
I think my reasoning is sound. Other than one tournament, Spoon is a round of 12 type guy. That's where he was all of last year, and so far this year he's right back in that range. Sure fire AAs don't lose to guys like Kocer.
Hall has shown he is no better than 7th or 8th. I think there were 4-5 guys that are new to the weight that I think are better than him. Do you think he is better than Tomasello, Gross, or Brock? Also Micic Eierman and Cortez. Those are all new guys to the weight I think will beat him this year.
This is a good post. One the other hand, the team hasn't really given us a ton to cheer about lately (other than Kevin's title ... where your point is well taken). I read the board regularly, but don't post all that much. When I do, it tends to be at high or low points. Its human nature.
If you're talking results, you have no logical reason to think Micic, Eierman, or Cortez would beat Earl, other than personal bias. "Hall has shown he is no better than 7th or 8th." But those three other guys have?
And this isn't me saying that there's no way those guys will finish above Earl. They very well could, they're all super talented. I'm just saying that there aren't any real facts/results to back it up. Earl is the proven commodity, and should be expected to beat them until it is proven otherwise IMO.
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To state that a 2 time AA (Hall) WON'T AA, is a pretty bold statement.
That is about as dumb as saying there is no way somebody isn't going to be a National Champ.
Look at Matt McDonough and his senior year. Anybody have him not in the finals much less not AAing. **** happens!!!
That is about as dumb as saying there is no way somebody isn't going to be a National Champ.
Look at Matt McDonough and his senior year. Anybody have him not in the finals much less not AAing. **** happens!!!
Subject to change, but I think 133 was as tough or tougher last year as it is this year. Loses Brewer, Nahshon,Taylor, Conaway and Dicamillo.. gains Tomasello, Cortez, Eierman, Gross, Brock? I'd call that a wash at this point.
First month into the season..and without all of the starters, and you already have him on the chopping block? 80% of the season is still ahead of us. Chill, everyone.
It's also pretty much impossible to predict what the R12 will look like, especially this early in the year. You could have the #1 ranked guy who lost to a fluke pin and has otherwise been on a tear or you could get the unranked guy who got lucky and pinned him.
My history of posting on other boards would clearly show I have no dog in this. I would like to ask though, what do you say if Kocer AA's? He's been a pretty tough guy throughout his career. At the NCAAs it wouldn't at all surprise me to see him wrestle on Saturday
When is an All-American not really an All-American? Only when declared so on forums like these or other sports media.
Not to be that guy but how many seasons of "starters are hurt" does it take for us to start turning our eyes toward the coach. Hurt starters do not mean we should keep hoping the coach will work out. Fortunately for KJ, Pollard doesn't give two craps about wrestling. KJ has never been an elite coach and was never going to be. Unfortunately for him he sold his reputation with Sunkist Kids and being able to prep athletes for tournaments as well as post college success. He came through on neither of those pieces either. He is just the cheapest option to take care of a dying sport and make sure we aren't absolutely pathetic.
