Poll: Targeting Rules

What should the targeting rules be?

  • Eliminate the rule. Nobody seems to know what targeting is anyways.

    Votes: 8 7.8%
  • 15 yard penalty. No ejection

    Votes: 15 14.7%
  • Degrees of targeting: Targeting 1 - 15 yard penalty only; Targeting 2 - 15 yard penalty and Ejection

    Votes: 75 73.5%
  • Keep current rules as is.

    Votes: 4 3.9%

  • Total voters
    102

ScottyP

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I understand the importance of player safety but these targeting rules seem a little ridiculous. Do you think the rules need to change regarding targeting? If so, what should they be? Feel free to add to the discussion.
 

JUKEBOX

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Probably since they're trying to improve the safety of the game, they should just make two tiers for targeting (one for obvious and intentional targeting - 15 yards + ejection, and another for incidental contact - just 15 yards).

My personal preference is just flag obvious and intentional targeting (15 yards + ejection) and don't flag incidental helmet contact though.
 

Gonzo

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I to am an Petras fan, your to dumb too recognize there ability too grow QBs. Petras four Heisman!

I'm baffled as to why nothing's been done yet. They need to institute two degrees of the penalty like they do with facemask penalty.
 

spierceisu

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I put 15 yards and no ejection just because I don't have confidence they will get it right any way they call it. If they can't get what targeting even is, I don't know how they will get the severity correct either.
 

JUKEBOX

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I to am an Petras fan, your to dumb too recognize there ability too grow QBs. Petras four Heisman!

I'm baffled as to why nothing's been done yet. They need to institute two degrees of the penalty like they do with facemask penalty.
I thought they got rid of the 5 yard facemask.
 

isufbcurt

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I to am an Petras fan, your to dumb too recognize there ability too grow QBs. Petras four Heisman!

I'm baffled as to why nothing's been done yet. They need to institute two degrees of the penalty like they do with facemask penalty.

It's all 15 yards, they don't have the 5 yarder anymore.
 

HGoat1

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The rule is complete BS if you aren't headhunting an airborne receiver.

It’s a rule created to pretend the sport cares about safety intended to limit liability but doing little to actually make the game safer.
 
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ScottyP

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My preference would be to go a similar route that the NFL does. Just call 15 yard un-necessary roughness penalty. If it isn't obvious during the game, don't call it.

Half of the time, the commentators on TV get the replay wrong anyways.
 

alarson

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I put 15 yards and no ejection just because I don't have confidence they will get it right any way they call it. If they can't get what targeting even is, I don't know how they will get the severity correct either.

Yeah, I was between the two.

In theory I support having a targeting 2 that includes an ejection, but it would have to be done properly to ensure only the most egregious examples get an ejection.
 
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1UNI2ISU

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The more layers you put into the rule, the more inconsistency there's going to be. The NCAA isn't going to back off the player safety stuff and it's going to be imperfect no matter what they do.

Leave it alone.
 

SCNCY

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Yeah, I was between the two.

In theory I support having a targeting 2 that includes an ejection, but it would have to be done properly to ensure only the most egregious examples get an ejection.

Overall, I the problem is the consistency of the call. If they call it consistently, then fine. But when it seems to noticeable change from game to game, that's an issue.
 

Rabbuk

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It’s crazy how the auto ejection part hasn’t been addressed yet. Wonder if it’s just a fear of lawsuits or just a general inflexibility
Might be too much groundwork but call it 15 yards and then have some officiating crew divvy out suspensions for the next game if they want to keep that as a deterrent or w.e. I never got why that part had to be decided in the 2 minutes directly after the hit.
 

alarson

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Overall, I the problem is the consistency of the call. If they call it consistently, then fine. But when it seems to noticeable change from game to game, that's an issue.

Having a level of flagrant 1 and 2 may help with the consistency if done right.

Refs know they're ejecting a guy if they call it right now, so its such a brutal hammer to drop it gets inconsistent. Ironically that might make the game less safe if it results in targeting being called less than it should be (which we can see probably happened during the Baylor game).

If we had F1\2, we would probably have more consistency but also more F1 getting called.

Also, if we had F1\2 I think we could probably get rid of booth reviews for most targeting calls (just review the ejections to confirm the level is appropriate).
 

Cyclonepride

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Probably since they're trying to improve the safety of the game, they should just make two tiers for targeting (one for obvious and intentional targeting - 15 yards + ejection, and another for incidental contact - just 15 yards).

My personal preference is just flag obvious and intentional targeting (15 yards + ejection) and don't flag incidental helmet contact though.
I'd like a third category: incidental or unavoidable contact. No penalty. Freyler's would be a textbook example of that.
 

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