I think they did that due to the same issue were discussing now, it was lack of consistency from game to game. So they just got rid of the lesser penalty and made it all 15 yards.
Poll: Targeting Rules
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I think they did that due to the same issue were discussing now, it was lack of consistency from game to game. So they just got rid of the lesser penalty and made it all 15 yards.
Targeting 1 equals 15 yards
Targeting 2 equals 20 Yards
Targeting 3 equals 20 yards plus ejection.
Targeting 3 would have to be a receiver coming across the middle and the defender launches into the receiver
Targeting 2 equals 20 Yards
Targeting 3 equals 20 yards plus ejection.
Targeting 3 would have to be a receiver coming across the middle and the defender launches into the receiver
In addition to the player being ejected, having to stop the game to spend 5 minutes looking at a replay gets a bit old. I understand wanting to get it right when you are dealing with a player ejection, though.
That's what I voted for. Too much inconsistency. Did anyone watch the FL TN game? There was a TD I think and one player shoved another hard after the play right in front of the official. The player that got pushed pretty much slapped the other in the helmet. No flag on either. Ridiculous.
I'm sure everyone will be satisfied if the rule gets made even more subjective.
Changes I would make:
1.Go back to targeting is only a foul when it's made against a defenseless player
2. Targeting has to be helmet to helmet, non of this crown of the helmet to someone's shoulder crap.
3. Only eject if a player gets called twice in one game.
I'd also like to see the face mask penalty reduced from 15 yards to 5. It's always incidental, is rarely "dangerous", and doesn't really give the player an advantage. It's a defender just trying to grab on to whatever he can.
When I see a facemask called against the other team I never go "yeah! they got caught trying to get away with one there". It's always "That's unfortunate for them, but I'll take it". It almost feels lucky to have the other team grab a facemask and get the free yards/ first down.
1.Go back to targeting is only a foul when it's made against a defenseless player
2. Targeting has to be helmet to helmet, non of this crown of the helmet to someone's shoulder crap.
3. Only eject if a player gets called twice in one game.
I'd also like to see the face mask penalty reduced from 15 yards to 5. It's always incidental, is rarely "dangerous", and doesn't really give the player an advantage. It's a defender just trying to grab on to whatever he can.
When I see a facemask called against the other team I never go "yeah! they got caught trying to get away with one there". It's always "That's unfortunate for them, but I'll take it". It almost feels lucky to have the other team grab a facemask and get the free yards/ first down.
Eliminate targeting as-is but install a head-hunting penalty where you get ejected for making a "non-football move" that is very blatant launching/spearing towards another player.
At bare minimum we have to quit kicking kids out of games for making football plays that have incidental helmet contact.
At bare minimum we have to quit kicking kids out of games for making football plays that have incidental helmet contact.
Put this in another thread and I'm not sure if it's possible to find out, but it'd be great if @JStanz51 or @ChrisMWilliams could get some insight as to why the rules committee hasn't adopted the college basketball flagrant foul model. Looks like it has been brought up every year since 2015 to no avail.
Reviving original targeting rule thread from 2013 for fun.
Apparently, they've been looking at the college basketball flagrant foul model since close to its beginning. Below are articles from 2015 and 2016. Not sure why this hasn't been adopted yet. I was unable to find an explanation from the rules committee on that.
Below that is a good history on the targeting rule as it has changed over the years.
Inside College Sports: Football's targeting rule needs to be fixed
In this week's edition of Inside College Sports, Jon Solomon looks at college football's targeting rule, which has made the game safer in some aspects but is far from perfect.www.cbssports.com
College Football Power Rankings: Tennessee leaps into top 10 as Penn State, Florida State, Kansas join
It was a week of change in the Power Rankings with some surprise unbeatens at the one-third pointwww.cbssports.com
Targeting: The history, the current backlash and the future
Targeting, a rule enacted by the NCAA in 2013 aimed at player safety, is one of the most debated rules in college football.www.columbiamissourian.com
Until they start calling penalties on ball carriers for lowering their head/shoulders into contact, incidental helmet to helmet contact will be a part of the game.
I would prefer they just call targeting for the obvious headhunting, but I doubt they will stop calling a penalty for incidental contact (for player safety), so probably the best choice is just to try to tier that out so the player doesn't get kicked out for the incidental contact.
The instant ejection seems pretty harsh for what stems from, in a lot of these cases, incidental contact. I'd be ok with a one-strike rule at least, though I'd be tempted to get rid of the ejection part of it altogether. Maybe have to sit out the rest of the quarter, or the following quarter if it happens with under 5 min left.
That's fine, but we're going to end up in the same place eventually, one of our guys gets kicked out and we're all screaming about how it was incidental, or the other way around for the other team.
I think maybe something like every targeting penalty is 15 yards, but the first for each team is a warning for the entire team, every subsequent targeting for that team is 15 yards and an ejection.
The thing is, it probably wouldn't.
We're probably getting more inconsistency now because of how huge the penalty is.
