Positive of Royce going pro
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This. I'd MUCH rather be in this position every year like *cough* Kentucky, Kansas, etc.
It sucks when a talented player like White leaves early, but let's hope it's an ongoing problem for ISU basketball in the future. I'd much rather have players leaving for the NBA than transfering to be "closer to home".
Besides the obvious fact that we lose our best player, everything else is good :laugh:
Having a first round draft pick among your former players is a good thing. Future NBA players want to go to a school that has had NBA talent :yes:
Having a first round draft pick among your former players is a good thing. Future NBA players want to go to a school that has had NBA talent :yes:
I'm assuming CFH has received substantive assurances that the bolded part will hold true for RW. Because if it doesn't, it will not be such a good thing for CFH.
As much as a positive it can be for Fred and ISU to have Royce make it in the NBA, could the opposite be said if Royce doesn't make it like CB and that in effect the program and Fred in a negative way?
I don't necessarily think its damaging - A LOT of really good college players get drafted, but don't stick, especially when you include the euros/ foreigners - there just aren't that many NBA roster spots.
Far more damaging is getting no one in the D-League.
Only if RW doesn't go in the first round. CB was still a first round pick and still got paid. That is most likely the number one concern for kids coming in who have legit NBA aspirations.
I figure of the 60 picks in the draft, 10-15 will be foreign guys you've never heard of, leaving just 45-50 that played NCAA. Having any of those is a good thing.
Note: last year, 10 players from outside of the NCAA.
Note: last year, 10 players from outside of the NCAA.
Yeah. Cart is before horse here, but I don't think Royce would be leaving if he wasn't pretty damn sure :twitcy:
If RW is a first round pick, I really don't see any negative effect for CFH, even if RW somehow doesn't make it in the NBA. If a coach puts his players in a position to make guaranteed first round money for two years, most would probably suspect any failures to be on the part of the player.
However, if a coach advises a player with two years of college eligibility left to enter that draft, and that players falls into the second round, I see that being a rather significant black eye for the coach.
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Have to disagree on the list of all-time great cyclones as well. I appreciate all that Royce has done in his two years here, but for me you need to make contributions on the court for at least two years, before you're considered next to guys like Fred, Hornacek, Cato, Grayer, Stevens, Jamaal, Fizer, and Sullivan.
The player who will benefit the most from this latest development? Percy Gibson. He showed as a true freshman this year that he can be a real factor, and I know he was getting impatient about playing time. He, Booker, Georges Niange (sp?) are all going to get the opportunity to help fill some big shoes next year.
RW did just as much in 1 year for ISU (resurrecting from the hell McValley) days as many of those guys on the list.
Agreed. Percy has already shown a nice touch around the hoop. His defensive awareness, passing, and physical abilities should all improve. Between him and Niang, I think we will have two very capable low-post scorers for several years to come. Our offense will look very different in coming years from what it did this year. My biggest concern for next year is whether our three-point shooting will be good enough to keep teams honest on defense. The loss of our two best three-point shooters could hurt more than we expect it to.
I hate this. I hate this for Royce, I hate this for Iowa State. He is not ready for the NBA. Every time Iowa State is about to get over the hump and really do something special this happens. whether it is somebody leaving for NBA, or somebody leaving the program, or the one great recruit not coming here, or a missed field goal, or a terrible call at the goal line. every time. It is getting really old. I just wish we could get some talent that actually wants to stay long enough, or come to Iowa State to turn us into a powerhouse. I feel like we have been so close before. I think that is why Royce is not one of the greatest cylclones of all time. I just don't think leading a team to the round of 32 puts you in that conversation. He has the opportunity to be a legend, but would rather be a maybe first round draft choice. I don't get it. a million dollars today, or multimillion dollars and legend status in multiple states, where you could get any job you wanted to after basketball. I would choose the 2nd option. But I actually care about Iowa State and the state of Iowa, so maybe that is where I differ.
Fred disagrees with you. Email JP and tell him that Fred has no idea what he is talking about when he says "I know what it takes to get to the NBA"
