Troy was our only offense back then. Our only hope. And could take it the distance at any time.
If it comes down to Klenakis or Sturdy then I would prefer Klenakis. Just not that impressed with Sturdy as the OC.
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Troy was our only offense back then. Our only hope. And could take it the distance at any time.
If it comes down to Klenakis or Sturdy then I would prefer Klenakis. Just not that impressed with Sturdy as the OC.
Trey Scott said the announcement would be pushed back at least until tomorrow due to the weather. He's also got quite a few details up on the search for subscribers.
Oh I hope we can get an OC ... maybe no one wants to join us 
if we do an internal hire again I will be so sad.....
if we do an internal hire again I will be so sad.....Oh I hope we can get an OC ... maybe no one wants to join us
Question, do you count Klenakis or Sturdy as an "internal hire"? Because I definitely don't they think they should. They were just brought here last year, both of them have plenty of OC experience, and Klenakis completely changed our offense.
Totally internal hires. They are already on staff. I don't think this is currently our strongest staff we have had under CPR. He needs to refil the cabinet. IMO Paul needs to be a more aggressive CEO of this football staff. Needs to have better cecession planning to avoid these odd gaps. These gap periods create doubt. Which is not good.
I wonder if it's been tough for CPR to sell the position. Not because it's ISU, but because working with CPR can be draining. He is a micro-manager for all things not directly under Wally's nose. Some areas need micro-managed, but you can definitely wear on those around you. I'm really hopeful that the next guy gets the same treatment as Wally, because that would mean it's somebody as well qualified.
OC how about play calling - i have a question if anyone has first hand knowledge of the situation, i would love to know the following:
In the West Virginia game, did Coach Mess call the offensive plays the whole game?
Main reason i asked is i've watched multiple games over and over. In that WVU game in reviewing things like delivery mechanics of Rohach, footwork, footwork of lineman, route running etc. another thing jumped out at me.
In the 2nd half of that game more then anytime this season to my memory, it really seemed to focus on a core set of plays that were very effective. I have long been a huge opponent to running 23 zone reads and 10 WR screens. However in this game i was the opposite. The playcalling during the game seemed to identify a few weaknesses and our coaches really exposed them in the fourth quarter and OT.
Case in point....the 62 yard td to Bundrage, we ran that exact same play, exact formation 4 times in that game. 3 of 4 times it netted a first down and oh yeah one big ol TD.
On critical third down play to Coleman in 4th qtr - his slant was used previously 2 series before on the 3rd and forever which was not converted but very very close. That blitz coverage set the stage for that series later on third down when they came with same side blitz and Coleman crossed the DB's face on the slant and he was left grasping as Coleman crossed the goal line.
This is purely observation, no negative thoughts, but, the teams offensive adjustments really looked different from the playcalling during the year. Would love to know if someone could shed light on that question....Maybe it was Mess in a groove. Maybe it was QB play. Who knows, but, for an ISU fan, that was a game that will live with me through the offseason as what we should be striving for with more consistency - regardless of who the OC is....
In the West Virginia game, did Coach Mess call the offensive plays the whole game?
Main reason i asked is i've watched multiple games over and over. In that WVU game in reviewing things like delivery mechanics of Rohach, footwork, footwork of lineman, route running etc. another thing jumped out at me.
In the 2nd half of that game more then anytime this season to my memory, it really seemed to focus on a core set of plays that were very effective. I have long been a huge opponent to running 23 zone reads and 10 WR screens. However in this game i was the opposite. The playcalling during the game seemed to identify a few weaknesses and our coaches really exposed them in the fourth quarter and OT.
Case in point....the 62 yard td to Bundrage, we ran that exact same play, exact formation 4 times in that game. 3 of 4 times it netted a first down and oh yeah one big ol TD.
On critical third down play to Coleman in 4th qtr - his slant was used previously 2 series before on the 3rd and forever which was not converted but very very close. That blitz coverage set the stage for that series later on third down when they came with same side blitz and Coleman crossed the DB's face on the slant and he was left grasping as Coleman crossed the goal line.
This is purely observation, no negative thoughts, but, the teams offensive adjustments really looked different from the playcalling during the year. Would love to know if someone could shed light on that question....Maybe it was Mess in a groove. Maybe it was QB play. Who knows, but, for an ISU fan, that was a game that will live with me through the offseason as what we should be striving for with more consistency - regardless of who the OC is....
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My guess for the long wait for OC hire announcement is CPR wants to announce all the hires in the same presser. My other guess is that the OC hire has already been made, and they're interviewing for the other open assistant coaching positions. No sources, just guesses.
If true... Look out Big 12!!
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WOW, if true RT @schadjoe: Iowa State has hired former Kansas head coach Mark Mangino as offensive coordinator, a source said.
Chris Williams @ChrisMWilliams1m
WOW, if true RT @schadjoe: Iowa State has hired former Kansas head coach Mark Mangino as offensive coordinator, a source said.
I count Sturdy because he has been here since Herman left but I don't count Coach K because he hasn't even been here for a year.
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