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drmwevr08

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Our policy is that when you are traveling on the company dime (with per diem), there is no 8 hours per day. So if you work 12 hours, that’s just one day. So if you travel for 3 days, you still work 2. It’s the trade off for the per diem. If I work heavy hours while traveling, I typically make up for it with an expensive meal.
Lots of people do this, and the employee is getting shafted most every time.
 
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isufbcurt

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Pretty sure Teams only keeps track of your active status in Teams. Mine always turns to yellow status while working in Excel/PPT or watching a Zoom call. I have to click in Teams to get it to return to Green. Company also locked down settings.

Not mine. I have youtube music videos playing all day and even when I am on my other laptop working teams on my original one is still green
 

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Here’s a scenario I dealt with at work. I’m curious what others think…

I had to travel via car to a conference about 7 hours away to speak (no good flights). The conference was M-W and I had scheduled time off for thurs/fri way in advance.

So, between driving and the conference, I had 35 hours on the clock by end of day Wednesday, including 17 hours on Wednesday itself.

Instead of using 16 hours of vacation, I just put 5 into the system to get me to 40.

The next week I got a whole bunch of sh!t from my boss about this. Mind you, there is no standard for hours at this place for salaried staff and there’s no policy on when use of vacation is required. His opinion was you have to use 8 hours of vacation time for each day off, no matter how many you clocked that week. So, I had 51 hours that week including 16 of vacation.

I personally thought it was a load of BS and micromanagement. Am I wrong?
Technically for a salaried employee, you'd be owed pay for the week. Yeah it is BS micromanagement in my view as someone with a lot of years and managed people. If you generally do great work and good work ethic, the person should have realized all of this and gave allowance to you. Now one thing that could play into it is if there are nit picking whiners elsewhere that jump all over stuff like this start raising hell because so and so let so and so do this and I don't get to do it.
 

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I have co workers who wfh and do an awesome job but it does irk me sometimes when they get on customer facing calls and they’re clearly in the backyard watching their kids play or out for a walk or sitting poolside. If it’s internal call, whatever but i think there should be a degree of professionalism when on call with customers.
oh for sure. I like to do walk and talks but anything presenting, on camera or elevated like that - clients, senior leaders - be in a professional setting.
 
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Does everyone get the weekly recap? You were in X number of meetings for X minutes and collaborated with these people.

So far my company is holding the line and allowing WFH. Something like 80% of employees said it was a key benefit.
As far as I know there are no weekly generated reports for Teams usage. We have to be in office 3 days a week so there are reports for badge usage.
 

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As far as I know there are no weekly generated reports for Teams usage. We have to be in office 3 days a week so there are reports for badge usage.

That reminds me. My company had 2 floors of prime Chicago Loop office space.

We had flexibility even prior to Covid. On Fridays only 5 people consistently badged in.

2 entire floors with 5 folks. It was....spooky
 
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This is some BS … that doesnt work for me either.
For Teams it absolutely should. Not sure of Zoom or Webex because I don't use them.

Think about it, when presenting, do you want you computer to go to sleep? It keeps it active.

If it doesn't work for you I'm just gonna say user error or skill issue.
 
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As far as I know there are no weekly generated reports for Teams usage. We have to be in office 3 days a week so there are reports for badge usage.
Teams does allow for both micro and macro usage tracking. There are a lot of built in reporting/analytics tools for daily, weekly, monthly, specific time period, etc at any level (user, team, channel, 1:1, calls, etc). There are also countless third party tools that help summarize if you don't use something like BO or PowerBI. Example of a single employee usage report straight from Teams Admin Center...

MetricMapped metric in ExportDefinition
User nameUser Principal NameThe email address of the user. You can display the actual email address or make this field anonymous.
Tenant nameTenant Display NameThe name of an internal or external tenant where a user belongs.

If a user belongs to an external tenant, corresponding data metrics (for example, post messages, reply messages, etc.) are calculated based on their interactions in shared channels of the admin’s tenant. Interactions done by the user in their own tenant (outside of shared channels of the given tenant) are not considered for the admin usage report of given tenant.
Is externalIs ExternalIndicates if the user is an external user or not.
Shared channel tenant namesShared Channel Tenant Display NamesThe names of internal or external tenants of shared channels where the user participated.
Channel messagesTeam Chat Message CountThe number of unique messages that the user posted in a team chat during the specified time period. This includes original posts and replies.
PostsPost MessagesThe number of post messages in all channels during the specified time period. A post is the original message in a teams chat.
RepliesReply MessagesThe number of replied messages in all channels during the specified time period.
Urgent messagesUrgent MessagesThe number of urgent messages during the specified time period.
Chat messagesPrivate Chat Message CountThe number of unique messages that the user posted in a private chat during the specified time period.
Total meetingsMeeting CountRefer to the 'Total participated meetings' metric as defined below, as the current metric and ‘Total participated meetings’ share the same definition. We intend to gradually phase out the current metric with 'Total participated meetings.'
1:1 callsCall CountThe number of 1:1 calls that the user participated in during the specified time period.
Last activity date (UTC)Last Activity DateThe last date that the user participated in a Microsoft Teams activity.
Meetings participated ad hocAd Hoc Meetings Attended CountThe number of ad hoc meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings organized ad hocAd Hoc Meetings Organized CountThe number of ad hoc meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Total organized meetingsMeetings Organized CountThe sum of one-time scheduled, Recurring, ad hoc and unclassified meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Total participated meetingsMeetings Attended CountThe sum of the one-time scheduled, recurring, ad hoc and unclassified meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings organized scheduled one-timeScheduled One-time Meetings Organized CountThe number of one-time scheduled meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Meetings organized scheduled recurringScheduled Recurring Meetings Organized CountThe number of recurring meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Meetings participated scheduled one-timeScheduled One-time Meetings Attended CountThe number of the one-time scheduled meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings participated scheduled recurringScheduled Recurring Meetings Attended CountThe number of the recurring meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Is licensedIs LicensedSelected if the user is licensed to use Teams.
Other activityHas Other ActionThe User is active but has performed other activities than exposed action types offered in the report (sending or replying to channel messages and chat messages, scheduling or participating in 1:1 calls and meetings). Examples actions are when a user changes the Teams status or the Teams status message or opens a Channel Message post but does not reply.
Audio Duration-The sum of the audio duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Video Duration-The sum of the video duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Screen Share Duration-The sum of the screen share duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Audio Duration In SecondsAudio Time (Min)The sum of the audio duration of a user used during the specified time period
Video Duration In SecondsVideo Time (Min)The sum of the video duration of a user used during the specified time period
Screen Share Duration In SecondsScreen Share Time (Min)The sum of the screen share duration of a user used during the specified time period
 
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yowza

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Teams does allow for both micro and macro usage tracking. There are a lot of built in reporting/analytics tools for daily, weekly, monthly, specific time period, etc at any level (user, team, channel, 1:1, calls, etc). There are also countless third party tools that help summarize if you don't use something like BO or PowerBI. Example of a single employee usage report straight from Teams Admin Center...

MetricMapped metric in ExportDefinition
User nameUser Principal NameThe email address of the user. You can display the actual email address or make this field anonymous.
Tenant nameTenant Display NameThe name of an internal or external tenant where a user belongs.

If a user belongs to an external tenant, corresponding data metrics (for example, post messages, reply messages, etc.) are calculated based on their interactions in shared channels of the admin’s tenant. Interactions done by the user in their own tenant (outside of shared channels of the given tenant) are not considered for the admin usage report of given tenant.
Is externalIs ExternalIndicates if the user is an external user or not.
Shared channel tenant namesShared Channel Tenant Display NamesThe names of internal or external tenants of shared channels where the user participated.
Channel messagesTeam Chat Message CountThe number of unique messages that the user posted in a team chat during the specified time period. This includes original posts and replies.
PostsPost MessagesThe number of post messages in all channels during the specified time period. A post is the original message in a teams chat.
RepliesReply MessagesThe number of replied messages in all channels during the specified time period.
Urgent messagesUrgent MessagesThe number of urgent messages during the specified time period.
Chat messagesPrivate Chat Message CountThe number of unique messages that the user posted in a private chat during the specified time period.
Total meetingsMeeting CountRefer to the 'Total participated meetings' metric as defined below, as the current metric and ‘Total participated meetings’ share the same definition. We intend to gradually phase out the current metric with 'Total participated meetings.'
1:1 callsCall CountThe number of 1:1 calls that the user participated in during the specified time period.
Last activity date (UTC)Last Activity DateThe last date that the user participated in a Microsoft Teams activity.
Meetings participated ad hocAd Hoc Meetings Attended CountThe number of ad hoc meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings organized ad hocAd Hoc Meetings Organized CountThe number of ad hoc meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Total organized meetingsMeetings Organized CountThe sum of one-time scheduled, Recurring, ad hoc and unclassified meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Total participated meetingsMeetings Attended CountThe sum of the one-time scheduled, recurring, ad hoc and unclassified meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings organized scheduled one-timeScheduled One-time Meetings Organized CountThe number of one-time scheduled meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Meetings organized scheduled recurringScheduled Recurring Meetings Organized CountThe number of recurring meetings a user organized during the specified time period.
Meetings participated scheduled one-timeScheduled One-time Meetings Attended CountThe number of the one-time scheduled meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Meetings participated scheduled recurringScheduled Recurring Meetings Attended CountThe number of the recurring meetings a user participated in during the specified time period.
Is licensedIs LicensedSelected if the user is licensed to use Teams.
Other activityHas Other ActionThe User is active but has performed other activities than exposed action types offered in the report (sending or replying to channel messages and chat messages, scheduling or participating in 1:1 calls and meetings). Examples actions are when a user changes the Teams status or the Teams status message or opens a Channel Message post but does not reply.
Audio Duration-The sum of the audio duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Video Duration-The sum of the video duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Screen Share Duration-The sum of the screen share duration of a user used during the specified time period and formatted by ISO 8601 - Wikipedia
Audio Duration In SecondsAudio Time (Min)The sum of the audio duration of a user used during the specified time period
Video Duration In SecondsVideo Time (Min)The sum of the video duration of a user used during the specified time period
Screen Share Duration In SecondsScreen Share Time (Min)The sum of the screen share duration of a user used during the specified time period
Good gawd. Glad I am not just starting out in the workforce and in the last 15% of my career.
 
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yowza

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That reminds me. My company had 2 floors of prime Chicago Loop office space.

We had flexibility even prior to Covid. On Fridays only 5 people consistently badged in.

2 entire floors with 5 folks. It was....spooky
Hell that would be the day I would be sure to actually go in!
 
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My previous boss did this when he worked from home. Could never reach him yet his status was always green.
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Here’s a scenario I dealt with at work. I’m curious what others think…

I had to travel via car to a conference about 7 hours away to speak (no good flights). The conference was M-W and I had scheduled time off for thurs/fri way in advance.

So, between driving and the conference, I had 35 hours on the clock by end of day Wednesday, including 17 hours on Wednesday itself.

Instead of using 16 hours of vacation, I just put 5 into the system to get me to 40.

The next week I got a whole bunch of sh!t from my boss about this. Mind you, there is no standard for hours at this place for salaried staff and there’s no policy on when use of vacation is required. His opinion was you have to use 8 hours of vacation time for each day off, no matter how many you clocked that week. So, I had 51 hours that week including 16 of vacation.

I personally thought it was a load of BS and micromanagement. Am I wrong?
I'm going to guess your boss has a tiny wiener.