Prohm got pissed

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He is totally accepting mediocrity when we have all these fans that refuse to accept mediocrity. How can that possibly be acceptable?

Accepting mediocrity, in the face of all of these people that refuse to accept mediocrity, is totally mediocre and not acceptable.

Listen, you're not a true fan unless you understand that all Prohm can do is double down on his faith and let G*d direct this team. There is nothing else that can be done.
 

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2 things:

While I agree with most the guy is a douche, anyone who laughed when he said it should be called out as well. I didn't hear the guy say it from where we were, but the wave of laughter was very audible.

Prohm seemed upset from the beginning since half the crowd left. I'm not calling people out for leaving, but Prohm didn't seem pleased with it.

I was very very disappointed that so many left.
 

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Fair enough. I hope like hell they can get it turned around, I just don't see it. I don't know what Steve did all offseason to prepare but it doesn't appear he did much to grow as a tactician. I've had the chance to attend some practices the past few years and it's the same stuff. To go thru this season and not make any legitimate adjustments to his system is disappointing.

This will be my last post because people seem to confuse my constructive criticism with being downright negative. I want him to succeed as I do believe he is a good man representing good values. Just don't believe he has the coaching skills to beat most of the coaches in our league.

I get how disappointing the losses at Hilton are. It's been crushing to me too. But come on, he HAS beat most of the coaches in our league. Be fair.
 

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That confused me at first, but you're right. Otherwise the political BS would get spewed all over these other boards. I suppose that's why it was created in the first place. Brilliant!

I think it is a little bit of both.

The Cave is basically all invective nowadays. Trump and rage, transported over from cable news and social media, broke it. There were some interesting policy discussions there at one point, but no longer. Not particularizing the Cave for this -- not trying to be nostalgic, and I am only 31, but I do not remember the debates/discussions around serious national crises like 9/11, the Iraq War, or the Financial Crisis being a fraction as bad as what goes on with Twitter on a daily basis. The Cave is just caught up in that, nothing unusual to CF whatsoever in that way.

It reminds me of a quote I heard somewhere...

"In the 20th Century, Madison Avenue discovered that sex sells. In the 21st Century, Palo Alto (and other various purveyors of social media) discovered that anger sells."

Encapsulating the worst of it over there is helpful, leaving the scene clear for some decent news and discussion of Iowa State sports. Indeed, probably the worst of the posters in the Cave are ones who never seem to say anything about the Cyclones.

Then again, the attitude and chirpiness can spill over here. Certain vendettas develop over the usual political flame wars and people remember the screen names when it comes down to discussing, well, obvious pain points like the end of this basketball season.

So I think it is both. I do not know how they net out.

I was very very disappointed that so many left.

It was disrespectful as hell for Nick, Marial, and Zoran.

People can say whatever they want to/about Prohm. He's being paid millions to do this professionally. Being mean to the players is what crosses the line, to me.

I know the past few weeks have not gone how we hoped they would, but giving those three a few minutes, when they have slaved for years and are going to be more heartbroken about this the rest of their lives than we are, is the least we can do.
 
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In 2015 when they were down 20 to OU Fred's adjustment was literally streetball.

And they got much better looks in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock then we do now pounding the ball at the top of the key and then running a high ball screen with 10 seconds left.

In the 2H on Saturday we took a time out with 16 seconds on the shot clock because we were stagnant. We ran no action on the in bounds and then ended up hoisting up a 24 footer with two on the shot clock. I just don’t get it. We have to get better in those situations if you are actually going to burn a time out. Effort was better yesterday but still plenty of times where the ball sticks and seemingly no offensive actions other than the high ball screen.
 

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And they got much better looks in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock then we do now pounding the ball at the top of the key and then running a high ball screen with 10 seconds left.

In the 2H on Saturday we took a time out with 16 seconds on the shot clock because we were stagnant. We ran no action on the in bounds and then ended up hoisting up a 24 footer with two on the shot clock. I just don’t get it. We have to get better in those situations if you are actually going to burn a time out. Effort was better yesterday but still plenty of times where the ball sticks and seemingly no offensive actions other than the high ball screen.

Can't disagree with this...I'm just saying that it's not like FH was always just throwing out crazy sets for automatic points or that his were always working or not stagnant.

In general ISU simply spends too much time dribbling and would be an easy team to defend and even a remotely basic offense of some sort where there's more than a bad pick out front would at least make the defense have to react.
 
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Can't disagree with this...I'm just saying that it's not like FH was always just throwing out crazy sets for automatic points or that his were always working or not stagnant.

In general ISU simply spends too much time dribbling and would be an easy team to defend and even a remotely basic offense of some sort where there's more than a bad pick out front would at least make the defense have to react.

Reality is if the team would just put their rears into guys and box out, they'd have won 4 more games. As bad as the offense has looked, they have scored enough points. Follow the scouting report and stick on shooters and then rebound and we're sitting at 3 or higher instead of 5.
 
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So the apparent heckler called into Soundoff tonight. There's no way to know for sure if it was him, but it was a fairly long call so I believe that it was. He said he was "John from Story City".

Basically he apologized and said he didn't think his voice would carry the way it did. He actually seemed pretty genuinely sorry and said his emotions got the best of him.
 

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So the apparent heckler called into Soundoff tonight. There's no way to know for sure if it was him, but it was a fairly long call so I believe that it was. He said he was "John from Story City".

Basically he apologized and said he didn't think his voice would carry the way it did. He actually seemed pretty genuinely sorry and said his emotions got the best of him.

If true, good for him.
 

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Happens with about 11:40 left in video


Listened several times and I can't make anything out. Maybe that's for the best. From the way Prohm reacted he heard it loud and clear. Looked like he wanted to go drop the mic and punch that Dbag out.
 
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Reality is if the team would just put their rears into guys and box out, they'd have won 4 more games. As bad as the offense has looked, they have scored enough points. Follow the scouting report and stick on shooters and then rebound and we're sitting at 3 or higher instead of 5.

The obsession with “putting rears in to guys” is only outdone by “needs to hit a weight room and redshirt”.
 
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So the apparent heckler called into Soundoff tonight. There's no way to know for sure if it was him, but it was a fairly long call so I believe that it was. He said he was "John from Story City".

Basically he apologized and said he didn't think his voice would carry the way it did. He actually seemed pretty genuinely sorry and said his emotions got the best of him.

Meh, still a POS.

Prohm should have had the crowd point him out before thanking him.

You MAYBE do that **** when you're 11 years old.