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I do think the staff will use him elsewhere, if they think it will improve their chances. They did with Lanning, athough Purdy is far more talented than Kempt. They could have been stubborn and left Lanning on defense, and think it would have cost them at least two wins. But they didn't.
 
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It's even worse to not play Real, just because you're worried if he gets hurt, then you have to be conservative with Purdy. You play them both the most as possible to help you win.
Right.
Injury prevention to the very athletic but unproven backup QB at the expense of actually helping you win games is overweighting tail risk. We’re buying an out-of-the-money option at a large premium. If Mitchell can help the team, play him, which also has overlap with how we’d use him in a contingent event. Can Mitchell help the offense? We’ll see.

If injury prevention to the backup QB was in fact so valuable over actual on field benefits, then the fact we exposed Mitchell in garbage time could mean Kolar is the actual backup.

But it’s not. We played him in garbage time because you don’t let injury prevention so greatly dictate on-field contributions. This is also evident in our usage of Purdy, our usage of starters on ST, our usage of our starting MLB, with no backup, as a punishing runner. If our margin is thin as the coaches have stated, we do not have the luxury of so greatly prioritizing contingency preparation at the expense of actual play.
 
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It's even worse to not play Real, just because you're worried if he gets hurt, then you have to be conservative with Purdy. You play them both the most as possible to help you win.
Isn't the smart thing to do when a game is out of hand to protect your starter and get your backup some rep's so he's further ready to step in if your starter gets hurt?
 

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Alabama is Alabama. They have other 5 star recruits at WR and RB, and all over the field. Alabama, playing their game, with the best man at QB, can beat anyone in the country. I'm not certain Iowa St, playing their game, with the best possible man at QB, can beat everyone in the Big 12.

However, if you occasionally play unorthodox, with your best athletes possible, then you have a chance to even the playing field, like against Oklahoma two years ago.

Having said all this, I would be fine with not even using him in these situations, until the Oklahoma or Texas game. But I do think its a loss to not use him at all, just because you're worried about injury.

Is reading that hard?

I said if you want to put a package together to use a couple of times a game for a change up, fine. But you know why we utilized the LanRam package? Because I might be faster than Kyle Kempt. Our current starting QB can run, really well. We don't NEED a special package.

I said it's like Alabama with fewer recruiting stars. Here it is again, since you either missed it or didn't understand it: I guess Saban is a chicken**** then for not getting Hurts on the field in some way, shape, or form? Should have moved him to WR?
It's the same situation, just less recruiting stars.
 

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Isn't the smart thing to do when a game is out of hand to protect your starter and get your backup some rep's so he's further ready to step in if your starter gets hurt?
Not if the injury risk is so high that you couldn’t afford to get that backup experience, while also helping the team, when the game was at hand. Best put in the third string. If he’s in a glass case during meaningful minutes, he’s in a glass case when it’s garbage time.
 

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yay! another thread on Re AL needing playing time because one threat on this subject wasn't enough
So?
You don't have to read it. Nor should anyone dredge through dozens of threads to find the other few Re'al threads you're referring to.
...If the topic warrants putting similar subjects in one thread, CF is pretty good about that for the most part.
 
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Is reading that hard?

I said if you want to put a package together to use a couple of times a game for a change up, fine. But you know why we utilized the LanRam package? Because I might be faster than Kyle Kempt. Our current starting QB can run, really well. We don't NEED a special package.

I said it's like Alabama with fewer recruiting stars. Here it is again, since you either missed it or didn't understand it: I guess Saban is a chicken**** then for not getting Hurts on the field in some way, shape, or form? Should have moved him to WR?
It's the same situation, just less recruiting stars.
So what are you arguing? We both want Real out there occasionally if it helps Iowa St win, yes? I'm not all advocating for a position change.
 

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I said if you want to put a package together to use a couple of times a game for a change up, fine. But you know why we utilized the LanRam package? Because I might be faster than Kyle Kempt. Our current starting QB can run, really well. We don't NEED a special package.
Our third down percentage is near the bottom of the conference. We struggled to score against UNI and Iowa. An athlete like Mitchell should make you more multiple and improve the offense, both with Purdy, and potentially a handful of plays without. Perhaps he’s not that good of an athlete, but more than just CW have suggested he’s one of the top few athletes on the team.

We’re not in a position to pass up improving the team due to tail risk in keeping the backup healthy.
 

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Tom Manning needs to find a way to get Re-al (deal) Mitchell on the field, and I don't mean in special situation, I mean every series. He's too much of a special athlete to use only in mop up action. Whether as a flanker back taking a reverse with a run pass option, in the wildcat, or even as a dual running back, he needs to be out there. My fear is that if he's not utilized, we'll lose him to transfer.

Why not employ him as a receiver regularly? Keep him behind the los to run or throw.
 
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Not if the injury risk is so high that you couldn’t afford to get that backup experience, while also helping the team, when the game was at hand. Best put in the third string. If he’s in a glass case during meaningful minutes, he’s in a glass case when it’s garbage time.
Sorry but I respectfully disagree. This is a great scenario to put in your backup. When the games at hand and he gets some real repetitions to get sharp if he's called on in the event of injury to #1.
 

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I don't think we've gone an entire season with the same QB since Arnaud. Re-Al's greatest value to us is a healthy and prepared backup QB. A gadget play here and there is fine, but the reality is he is backing up one of the best, most efficient QBs in all of the NCAA. There should be no set of circumstances that Brock is taken off the field in favor of Re-Al.
What about this thread made you think they want to take Brock out for Re Al? Reading comprehension people.