Re-Indexing Annual Giving Levels

[KCCLONE712]

The letter said that reindexing occured in 2008 and 2015. From 2009 to 2015 the football team went 32-65 (.330). 2016 to present the team has gone 24-22 (.522). I think you have already enjoyed an increase in quality of your product. Time to pay for that.

I overpaid from 2009-2015, donating anything for a team that has 34% winning percentage is a bad investment. Even at what I donate I think a 50% winning percentage is shaky to think that the quality is justified to raise. For someone who donates 5k a year, this is quite the increase. I believe in Campbell so I will probably suck it up, but if when it starts costing me more money then I expect wins and more of them.

Edit: Especially since I drive 5.5 hours each way and usually stay at a hotel one night in DSM. If the cost goes up and the wins don't, then I would rather save my time and money and cheer for free in my own home

 

[CyAg]

Will be interesting to see what info comes in Jan. For me to increase my giving by 25% there has to be more perks including re-seating for basketball. I have had season tickets for 25 years and while my women's tickets are not that bad there are better seats near me that get used less than 50% of the time that when I asked about them could not get an answer as to why they are not available.

You are surprised you could not get an answer and I understand, but I am guessing privacy comes into play a bit. So, there are many fans that purchase tickets that cannot make to most games, they do it to support the programs. So, if they are there 10-50% of the time, feel free to sit in them, but if they have more points and are higher on the donation priority point scale why should you get them? We purchase 2 WBB tickets and do not make most games, we just support the program. Feel free to sit in them if we are not there, but do not complain if we show up to sit in them. Carry on.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I overpaid from 2009-2015, donating anything for a team that has 34% winning percentage is a bad investment. Even at what I donate I think a 50% winning percentage is shaky to think that the quality is justified to raise. For someone who donates 5k a year, this is quite the increase. I believe in Campbell so I will probably suck it up, but if when it starts costing me more money then I expect wins and more of them.

Edit: Especially since I drive 5.5 hours each way and usually stay at a hotel one night in DSM. If the cost goes up and the wins don't, then I would rather save my time and money and cheer for free in my own home

No you didn't. Football tickets to ISU have been dirt cheap forever. They no longer will be because this isn't a ******** program anymore. You weren't going because the football result was joyful. You were going because you enjoyed the experience. Now you have the same experience but the football is enjoyable. TO think you won't have to pay for that is ridiculous and as I posted earlier, the alumni growth will push you out as they're willing to pay. If we become a 9-10 win program, you are probably talking about a few breaks between that and the biggest of stages. That's our ceiling. Hell, it's everyone's ceiling who doesn't have a top 3-4 coach. It's kind of like making the tournament in that you have a team that can/should win every night and when the breaks go our way, we could be talking championships. ****, we're three breaks away from being undefeated this year and we have a lot of room for growth just with the guys on the team.

 

[Tre4ISU]

And people disagreed when I said ISU doesn't have the type of donors other programs have.

That's a real issue. We can get the special project ones here and there but in terms of what moves the needle which is that large annual donation group, we're in a tough spot.

 

[VeloClone]

I overpaid from 2009-2015, donating anything for a team that has 34% winning percentage is a bad investment. Even at what I donate I think a 50% winning percentage is shaky to think that the quality is justified to raise. For someone who donates 5k a year, this is quite the increase. I believe in Campbell so I will probably suck it up, but if when it starts costing me more money then I expect wins and more of them.

Edit: Especially since I drive 5.5 hours each way and usually stay at a hotel one night in DSM. If the cost goes up and the wins don't, then I would rather save my time and money and cheer for free in my own home

Everyone has to make the value decision for themselves; you'll get no argument from me on that. But if you were overpaying for the 34% winning percentage team then why did you do it? Did you get something other than wins out of the deal? If you did, do you get those things when it is a 50% winning percentage team? What about if next year that percentage is bumped up to closer to 60% for the period to date?

Everyone has to make the value decision for themselves.

 

[cyfan92]

Not to mention there are tens of thousands of recent college grads thanks to ISU expanding enrollment. A lot are burdened by student loans. But you'd be surprised what people in their upper 20's and 30's make. Joint income, lots of them don't have children yet.

Also, we have a lot more "high-level" donors than people give us credit for. It's just that mid-westerners are frugal to the bone.

 

[ISC]

I’m still not sure what to think about all of this. Part of me thinks it will be good (but only if a reseating happens). But also I think they need to start some sort of tracking of actually showing up to getting points. If you miss > 50% of the games , you lose your seats the next year. It’s crazy how many empty seats there are for all sports.

Also, let’s all be honest the amount of money thrown around on college sports is WAY out of hand. There are a lot better ways a person/university should spend that kind of money.

 

[nfrine]

The price of corn and beans must go up....

 

[Sparkplug]

I would rather they add a few more donation levels. Such as a level between gold ($1000) and captain ($2500)
A person in the new level would have priority over a gold but be below a captain.
Many might do this to gain priority especially if they aren’t earning a lot of extra points each year

 

[CyAg]

I’m still not sure what to think about all of this. Part of me thinks it will be good (but only if a reseating happens). But also I think they need to start some sort of tracking of actually showing up to getting points. If you miss > 50% of the games , you lose your seats the next year. It’s crazy how many empty seats there are for all sports.

Also, let’s all be honest the amount of money thrown around on college sports is WAY out of hand. There are a lot better ways a person/university should spend that kind of money.

When a season ticket is bought..saying a attendance percentage is required is just non practical. Donors would have issues.

 

[ISC]

When a season ticket is bought..saying a attendance percentage is required is just non practical. Donors would have issues.

It’s not required... and I would hope a 50% attendance rate wouldn’t be any sort of issue. If it is, then all you are doing is taking a seat that could go to someone who would actually attend.

 

[CyAg]

It’s not required... and I would hope a 50% attendance rate wouldn’t be any sort of issue. If it is, then all you are doing is taking a seat that could go to someone who would actually attend.

Or buy ing a ticket yo support the team..Thos happens all the time

 

[Sparkplug]

When a season ticket is bought..saying a attendance percentage is required is just non practical. Donors would have issues.

All a person would have to do is donate their ticket and they would have perfect attendance because their seat was occupied

 

[spinback32]

If they reseat Hilton - that would be the one thing to open the floodgates for new/higher donations.

 

[Sparkplug]

Would someone create a poll of basketball season ticket holders and ask if their seats are located in their donation level. Also if they are seated below or above their donation level.

Thanks

 

[VeloClone]

Would someone create a poll of basketball season ticket holders and ask if their seats are located in their donation level. Also if they are seated below or above their donation level.

Thanks

I'll get somebody right on that.

Hey, @Sparkplug could you take care of that?

 

[kirk89gt]

Would someone create a poll of basketball season ticket holders and ask if their seats are located in their donation level. Also if they are seated below or above their donation level.

Thanks

Just a gut feel, but I would say that most people in donor seats in Hilton are in areas where they donate more than the level requires for the seats.

 

[Jnecker4cy]

Just a gut feel, but I would say that most people in donor seats in Hilton are in areas where they donate more than the level requires for the seats.

The Corners still do not need a donation in Hilton. Corner Balconies that is. I donate but I like the corner balcony seats. More than happy to stay there. Would not be surprised to see a donation of some kind needed for those tickets in the new plan.

 

[DSMCy]

Just a gut feel, but I would say that most people in donor seats in Hilton are in areas where they donate more than the level requires for the seats.

Yes, that's what is widely assumed. That there are donors in the upper deck donating more than those in the lower bowl.

 

[Urbandale2013]

One thing they probably need to be careful of is to not price out younger donors. The money is coming from my parents at this point but we donate $500 to get paved parking for football as my parents struggle walking to far. I at this point plan on continuing that donation once my sister graduates and they stop coming to the games. If the amount goes up to much I might just stop donating and stick with my cheap seats. I think the key will be more donation levels rather than really raising them a lot.