Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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The ACC has never graded out tougher than the Big 12 top to bottom in the 2+ decades I've been looking at computer rankings. They have a lot of work to do if they think they're going to jump the Big 12 adding teams that weren't good at football last year and have been awful in basketball.

It's not like SMU is only going to play Notre Dame and Clemson. They're gonna get a lot of easy games and a pretty easy SOS most years.
 

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What’s the attraction to SMU? Academics? Texas recruiting?
Donor dollars...plain and simple. 7-9 years without TV revenue is only possible by donors lining SMU's pockets. The ESPN dollars for SMU will be 100% distributed to existing ACC members. Gee, I wonder why they voted to add SMU. A clear recipe for future conference infighting. If the ACC does survive long-term and goes to renegotiate a new TV deal, you think they are giving SMU an equal share? He'll no! Stanford and Cal at 30%...yikes. The wedding happened, but everyone in attendance knows it will be a marriage of constant disfunction.
 

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Donor dollars...plain and simple. 7-9 years without TV revenue is only possible by donors lining SMU's pockets. The ESPN dollars for SMU will be 100% distributed to existing ACC members. Gee, I wonder why they voted to add SMU. A clear recipe for future conference infighting. If the ACC does survive long-term and goes to renegotiate a new TV deal, you think they are giving SMU an equal share? He'll no! Stanford and Cal at 30%...yikes. The wedding happened, but everyone in attendance knows it will be a marriage of constant disfunction.

It wont work in the long term but all 3 schools have big donors with deep pockets. So in the short term sure I guess.
 

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It wont work in the long term but all 3 schools have big donors with deep pockets. So in the short term sure I guess.

But only one really cares about football. I don’t think Stanford and Cal donors care as much about football as much as SMU donors do.
 

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ACC is going to poach the Big12 if/when the top ACC schools leave? Did he really think that one through?

Honestly, if they keep the TV contract that’s similar to the Big12, I could see WVU, Cincinnati, and UCF giving them a look if offered. But I just don’t see anyone beyond that. And those would only really be about reducing travel costs.
 
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You won't be able to kill off the Big 12 without introducing a huge pay disparity with the ACC. Once Clemson, FSU, UNC and Miami leave the ACC, what's the argument that conference will be worth more than the Big 12? Especially if the ACC plans on continuing the established practice of bringing on teams at a huge discount for a long period of time (or free in SMU's case.)

Sports media never gets tired of entertaining scenarios about the end of the Big 12. But they are always WRONG.
 

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What’s the attraction to SMU? Academics? Texas recruiting?
Free inventory for 9 years? Their money being distributed to the other schools for 9 years? They used to be a great program before getting the death penalty, which ironically they can now legally pay those players and could end up getting pretty good again because they have that money. And yeah opening the Texas pipeline is probably pretty nice too.

Not saying it’s going to happen, but it wouldn’t shock me of they NIL their way to another conference in 10 years when the ACC gets poached.
 
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Honestly, if they keep the TV contract that’s similar to the Big12, I could see WVU, Cincinnati, and UCF giving them a look if offered. But I just don’t see anyone beyond that. And those would only really be about reducing travel costs.
That's a big IF on a couple fronts. First the Big12 gets a new TV deal in 2031, the ACC has to wait another 5 years (2036).

Second, the Big10 will get new deals before 2036- so the ACC could stand to lose 2-6 of it's top teams, not including ND.

The adds were necessary for ACC, but if their top 4-6 schools leave, the quality of ACC football would be on par with MWC or AAC.
 

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Honestly, if they keep the TV contract that’s similar to the Big12, I could see WVU, Cincinnati, and UCF giving them a look if offered. But I just don’t see anyone beyond that. And those would only really be about reducing travel costs.
ACC would be reuniting much of the old Big East. Big 12 would backfill with Memphis/San Diego State, Oregon State, Washington State.
 
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Florida State and Clemson are prob not amused.
Actually this may make it more possible that they will be able to leave, as the APCC (Atlantic-Pacific Coast Conference) will be able to survive now that they have their replacements already in the fold.
 

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It's beyond stupid and ESPN. Fox and P5 Presidents/ADs should all be embarrassed that this is what all unfolded.

Networks ended up with more mouths to feed and essentially destroyed two athletic departments in the process assuming ORSt and Wazzu don't end up in the B12.

You got a conference (B12) needlessly adding 4 G5 schools because another conference (PAC) refused to merge when the offer was made to them.

You got another conference (B10) acting as a puppet for Fox jumping two time zones to expand with two schools with one of them having to divert their payout shares to another school that didn't get an invite. They later add two more schools from the same time zone at non-competitive half shares for the duration of their new TV deal.

Then you have another conference (ACC) jump time zones to add 3 schools at less at reduced or no shares just so a network can fill some After Dark programming slot and supposedly to protect themselves from future attrition in the next decade.

And then you have the SEC who at least expanded with schools contiguous or in their existing footprint but still refuse to play 9 conference games and could end up destroying more ADs with their own expansion motives.

What an effin disaster.
Since the B1G started this, they should be required to take the two PAC orphans.
 

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Honestly, if they keep the TV contract that’s similar to the Big12, I could see WVU, Cincinnati, and UCF giving them a look if offered. But I just don’t see anyone beyond that. And those would only really be about reducing travel costs.
Even if they were able to pick off those 3 (which I don’t think they would be able to), that wouldn’t kill the conference or even really materially damage the Big 12.

If they got TCU, Okie State, WVU, and Kansas (which I really don’t believe they’d be able to with FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Virginia gone) that would hurt, but we could still backfill and survive.
 

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I wonder how TCU feels about this?

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A lot of very rich SMU alumni/donors have been waiting almost 40 years for a seat back at the table…… they are a sleeping giant for NIL.
 
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