Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Die4Cy

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Anyone else feel bad for OSU and WSU? I wouldn’t be upset if the Big 12 threw them a bone. I would welcome them into the league. I know it won’t happen but dang, this sucks to see them left out.
It doesn't seem right, I hate all of it except knowing ISU is secure at the moment.

That SMU gets a promotion while they get tossed overboard is nuts.
 

Die4Cy

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all it tells me is the the ACC is going to implode soon.
Yes. An attempt to control the fallout, so a mass exodus doesn't happen.

Only problem with that is, it's the media money that causes the mass exodus to happen and the new ACC adds do nothing to plug that hole.
 

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I’m very happy with the new Big 12. If these 16 schools can be a strong unit, they will be a part of the college athletic elite for years to come. The media money will start to equalize. ESPN is bleeding money right now. NIL will eventually be regulated. Yes, the Alabama’s of the sports world will always be on top but the Big 12 schools will be just as good off as the Iowas and the Missouris of the sports world.
 

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I’m very happy with the new Big 12. If these 16 schools can be a strong unit, they will be a part of the college athletic elite for years to come. The media money will start to equalize. ESPN is bleeding money right now. NIL will eventually be regulated. Yes, the Alabama’s of the sports world will always be on top but the Big 12 schools will be just as good off as the Iowas and the Missouris of the sports world.

ESPN is still profitable. They will have to roll out the direct to consumer version in a year or two which could change the numbers, but the Disney cable networks are still profitable
 

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Anyone else feel bad for OSU and WSU? I wouldn’t be upset if the Big 12 threw them a bone. I would welcome them into the league. I know it won’t happen but dang, this sucks to see them left out.
The B1G should take them, as they are the original cause of the conference collapse. Except, at 18, the B1G is holding their last two vacant spots to have space for Notre Dame.

I think that the largest the conferences will grow is 20, as the next jump would be to 24, which is too big for scheduling.

The B1G should be renamed the Canadian Border League.
 

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I think that the largest the conferences will grow is 20, as the next jump would be to 24, which is too big for scheduling.
The conferences are already too big/concentrated. With the CFP expanding to 12, and conferences doing away with divisions, the conference title games are already gratuitous. What’s the benefit of getting a first round bye in the CFP? The top 4 are almost certain to be playing in their conference title games. A lot of 5-12 seeds are going to play the 13th game, then face 3 more rounds in the CFP (potentially).

Not that I’m going to argue in favor of less football. It just doesn’t make a ton of sense to make a big deal about a championship game when 6 or more of the 8 power conference championship game participants make up the bulk of a 12 team playoff starting two week later.
 
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The SMU promotion makes no sense to me.
I keep saying this...SMU was only attractive because they offered up an insane 9 years without media payout. Total ACC media payout per school including extras is around 40 Mil. Divide that number among the existing 15 members for 9 years, and that's almost 3 Mil reasons per year per member of why SMU is valuable to the ACC. Just crazy.
 
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I keep saying this...SMU was only attractive because they offered up an insane 9 years without media payout. Total ACC media payout per school including extras is around 40 Mil. Divide that number among the existing 15 members for 9 years, and that's almost 3 Mil reasons per year per member of why SMU is valuable to the ACC. Just crazy.

Having a foothold in Texas for recruiting is worth something, too.
 
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The conferences are already too big/concentrated. With the CFP expanding to 12, and conferences doing away with divisions, the conference title games are already gratuitous. What’s the benefit of getting a first round bye in the CFP? The top 4 are almost certain to be playing in their conference title games. A lot of 5-12 seeds are going to play the 13th game, then face 3 more rounds in the CFP (potentially).

Not that I’m going to argue in favor of less football. It just doesn’t make a ton of sense to make a big deal about a championship game when 6 or more of the 8 power conference championship game participants make up the bulk of a 12 team playoff starting two week later.
The only fair thing to do … reduce the season to five games, then start the 128 Team Super Duper Playoff Tournament That’s Guaranteed To Find The Very Best Team In All The Land. So what if you lose in the first round and end up with just six games? Them‘s the breaks for the $875 million your school in raking in in media dollars!

People hate me for it, but I still say winning your conference ought to be a requirement for making the playoff. That makes conference championship games a de facto first round, it’s a clear, objective, and unmistakable benchmark to get in the playoff, and it becomes a Tournament of Champions instead of a group of teams that pass some committee’s “eye test.”

You go 11-1 but miss the SEC championship because you lost that game to somebody in your division? Stop crying, play better, you’re apparently worse than that other team, you don’t get a second chance out of the goodness of our hearts, maybe next year. You went 10-3 with the nation’s hardest schedule & lost your conference title game while UTSA is in the playoff by winning the American? Again, there were obviously three teams better than you, including others in your conference, whay gives you the right to say you’re the best team in all the land?

Playoffs never determine who’s “best” anyway; they merely determine who survives a three- or four-round tournament. Might as well have the requirement for entry be proven on the field by winning something instead of getting awarded a spot because your tradition is so great.
 

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I keep saying this...SMU was only attractive because they offered up an insane 9 years without media payout. Total ACC media payout per school including extras is around 40 Mil. Divide that number among the existing 15 members for 9 years, and that's almost 3 Mil reasons per year per member of why SMU is valuable to the ACC. Just crazy.

Did SMU agree to zero media payout or just $0 from the ACC core TV deal?

I keep hearing this was a big step for SMU, but I thought I heard announcers on an ACC game yesterday saying SMU will still get NCAA Hoops Tournament and CFP money.

If SMU gave up all $40M that is a big give. If they are just giving up $24M of core media deal, but still getting another $20-$25M from championships then their decision to move from AAC to ACC was a big financial win.
 

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I keep saying this...SMU was only attractive because they offered up an insane 9 years without media payout. Total ACC media payout per school including extras is around 40 Mil. Divide that number among the existing 15 members for 9 years, and that's almost 3 Mil reasons per year per member of why SMU is valuable to the ACC. Just crazy.
SMU is the lame dude no one wanted at the party who pays everyone’s tab to try to fit in, but at the end of the day he’s just a guy who bought his way into the circle.