Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[CyCrazy]

I'm opposite..invite them and all the remaining teams that are not in the SEC / Big Ten. Form a new league that has nothing to do with SEC / Big - allow no team in the new league to play them in any sport. Let those two conference beat up on and try to outspend each other.

Our new league will have standard NIL payment limits, scholarship limits, transfer rules, etc. Each team receives the same financial support from media.

I think this new league would be a lot more fun and healthy for the student athletes.

In essence...this new league replaces the NCAA and all their mistakes.

In all honesty, it is going to be incredibly hard for a team not in the big 2 conferences to be competitive long term going forward. So instead of trying to be the third best conference...I say screw them and let them eat cake!

I go back and forth on this. If the Big 2 do their own thing and only play each other and bowl games, and crown a champ. Will I watch, probably, but that is shutting out anyone not affiliated with a school. Average joe of any team on the outside probably wont care about the Big2. It will be the shinny new thing but will fade.

Let em do whatever, I wont care. Their are more outside schools than not.

 

[Clonehomer]

College Football Enquirer podcast from last week talked a bit about ESPN and the PAC-12. Dan Wetzel brought up an interesting thought that people are just assuming it’s other college football content ESPN is putting ahead of the PAC-12 rights. He brought up the recent acquisition by Endeavor to get the WWE. Endeavor also owns the UFC, which ESPN currently has.

That UFC deal is coming up soon (negotiations next year I think, could be a little off there) and the ratings for WWE for 52 weeks (Smackdown averages like 2.4 million I think he said) a year are better than what the PAC-12 gets on average.

Could be a cheaper overall bundle to have UFC and WWE in ESPN’s portfolio with overall better ratings and more content throughout the entire year. Plus a different demographic and fan base to market to as well.

Just an interesting thought that was a different perspective.

I'd prefer to watch the Ocho sports year round than UFC and WWE.

 

[JCity]

I'd prefer to watch the Ocho sports year round than UFC and WWE

Congrats? Be that as it may more people prefer to watch the UFC and WWE.

 

[jctisu]

Congrats? Be that as it may more people prefer to watch the UFC and WWE.

Yep. I’m not a WWE guy at all, and I have lost interest in the UFC a bit over the last couple of years. But you can’t deny their ratings and fanbase. Especially WWE.

 

[CascadeClone]

Yep. I’m not a WWE guy at all, and I have lost interest in the UFC a bit over the last couple of years. But you can’t deny their ratings and fanbase. Especially WWE.

Good demographic too. Younger, poor decision making and impulse control, lots of disposable income from selling meth...

jk jk

 

[Cloneon]

I can't wait for AI to spawn new threads for off-topic sub-threads.

 

[IceCyIce]

MSN

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[Ctrans]

Congrats? Be that as it may more people prefer to watch the UFC and WWE.

Why?

 

[CyCrazy]

Why?

Because they do?

 

[jctisu]

Because they do?

It’s almost like people have different tastes in what they like. Shocked face!!!

 

[isucy86]

It’s just a giant stand off, which means we end up with the status quo

In recent days there has been a lot of talk in the media that the Big10 doesn't want to be the reason the Pac10 disbands, so they are treading water waiting on Pac 10 schools to join the Big12. Not sure I buy that story line, as there was no problem taking USC & UCLA. The Big10 had to know that would destabilize the Pac10. But under that scenario the 4 corner schools would be the tipping point.

But it would seem like Oregon & Washington could sink the Pac12 by not agreeing to sign a GOR and leave an exit clause in the TV rights deal. That would surely cause 2 or more Pac12 schools to join the Big12 and put pressure on Big10 to add Oregon & Washington now.

The SEC seems to get forgotten in realignment talk and maybe ESPN has dictated that if their priority is making sure they get a large share of the 12 team playoff. But a number of Pac12 schools would make sense for the SEC conference to compliment recent adds of Texas, OU and A&M.

 

[exCyDing]

In recent days there has been a lot of talk in the media that the Big10 doesn't want to be the reason the Pac10 disbands, so they are treading water waiting on Pac 10 schools to join the Big12. Not sure I buy that story line, as there was no problem taking USC & UCLA. The Big10 had to know that would destabilize the Pac10. But under that scenario the 4 corner schools would be the tipping point.

But it would seem like Oregon & Washington could sink the Pac12 by not agreeing to sign a GOR and leave an exit clause in the TV rights deal. That would surely cause 2 or more Pac12 schools to join the Big12 and put pressure on Big10 to add Oregon & Washington now.

The SEC seems to get forgotten in realignment talk and maybe ESPN has dictated that if their priority is making sure they get a large share of the 12 team playoff. But a number of Pac12 schools would make sense for the SEC conference to compliment recent adds of Texas, OU and A&M.

I don’t see how the PAC is going to get a deal that satisfies everyone. If it’s enough money to keep the corner schools in the fold, it’s probably not going to have an opt-out for schools that are hoping for a B10 call.

The B10 has had no qualms about poaching from the PAC, B12 and ACC over the past 13 years. I don’t believe they give two ***** about the PAC. They either don’t want WAOR or are fine letting them twist in the wind until the ACC gets carved up and they can take another run at ND.

 

[WhoISthis]

In recent days there has been a lot of talk in the media that the Big10 doesn't want to be the reason the Pac10 disbands, so they are treading water waiting on Pac 10 schools to join the Big12. Not sure I buy that story line, as there was no problem taking USC & UCLA. The Big10 had to know that would destabilize the Pac10. But under that scenario the 4 corner schools would be the tipping point.

But it would seem like Oregon & Washington could sink the Pac12 by not agreeing to sign a GOR and leave an exit clause in the TV rights deal. That would surely cause 2 or more Pac12 schools to join the Big12 and put pressure on Big10 to add Oregon & Washington now.

The SEC seems to get forgotten in realignment talk and maybe ESPN has dictated that if their priority is making sure they get a large share of the 12 team playoff. But a number of Pac12 schools would make sense for the SEC conference to compliment recent adds of Texas, OU and A&M.

What PAC schools complement the SEC?

Maybe ASU?

I don’t see it. Not with ACC schools to be taken. Mid-level PAC vs former Big 12 doesn’t do much. Clemson vs SEC, or FSU vs SEC, or UNC vs SEC is a much better fit

 

[cyman05]

This is subscription only but interesting to see some site with Washington put it out there after McMurphys report

Exclusive: Washington, Oregon Set to Announce Departure from Pac-12

USC and UCLA have already announced their departures from the Pac-12 Conference. RealDawg.com has learned that a time “Around Memorial Day” is when there will be an official announcement that both the University of Washington and the University of Oregon are leaving the Pac-12 Conference for...

realdawghuskies.com

Oregon, Washington 'Vetted' And 'Cleared' To Join The Big Ten According To New Report

Conference realignment continues to be the story of college football, with the Big Ten leading the charge.

www.outkick.com

 

[BCClone]

What PAC schools complement the SEC?

Maybe ASU?

I don’t see it. Not with ACC schools to be taken. Mid-level PAC vs former Big 12 doesn’t do much. Clemson vs SEC, or FSU vs SEC, or UNC vs SEC is a much better fit

Oregon seems to fit with them to me.

 

[Rogue52]

My opinion:

1. A reasonable deal would have already been signed if all ten remaining members agreed to sign a GoR. They won’t.

2. Since they won’t sign a GoR, the deals are all extremely low and there is no point to signing unless you are OSU or Wazzu.

It’s a vicious predicament and the only way out is to sign a GoR for a shorter timeframe, but then the offers will still be less than you want.

 

[isucy86]

My opinion:

1. A reasonable deal would have already been signed if all ten remaining members agreed to sign a GoR. They won’t.

2. Since they won’t sign a GoR, the deals are all extremely low and there is no point to signing unless you are OSU or Wazzu.

It’s a vicious predicament and the only way out is to sign a GoR for a shorter timeframe, but then the offers will still be less than you want.

IMO the overarching reason for Pac10 inaction is threefold:

1. They aren't getting the media rights money they expected.
2. Most of the Pac10 schools believe if the conference implodes, they are deserving to be in Big10 or SEC. If not in 2024, then in 2030.
3. They believe the 12 team playoff enables them to delay action for 5 years. Each Pac 12 school currently gets around $6.5M with a 4 team playoff. That should double in 2024 & 25. And then bump to around $22M starting in 2026. Plus Pac schools could add SDSU & SMU and take a cut of their Playoff money.

 

[PickSix]

This is subscription only but interesting to see some site with Washington put it out there after McMurphys report

Exclusive: Washington, Oregon Set to Announce Departure from Pac-12

USC and UCLA have already announced their departures from the Pac-12 Conference. RealDawg.com has learned that a time “Around Memorial Day” is when there will be an official announcement that both the University of Washington and the University of Oregon are leaving the Pac-12 Conference for...

realdawghuskies.com

Oregon, Washington 'Vetted' And 'Cleared' To Join The Big Ten According To New Report

Conference realignment continues to be the story of college football, with the Big Ten leading the charge.

www.outkick.com

The rumblings are defintely getting louder. Both McMurphy and Jim Williams are on record strongly indicating that the Big 10 intends to (at least strongly consider) UO and Washington if the Big 12 is successful in adding the 4 corners.

The main holdup for the Big 10 is an attempt to avoid the perception that they're responsible for killing the PAC.

With the Big 10 taking this position, it gives Oregon and Washington all the incentive they need to not sign a GOR and work towards pushing the corner 4 out of the conference.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

The rumblings are defintely getting louder. Both McMurphy and Jim Williams are on record strongly indicating that the Big 10 intends to (at least strongly consider) UO and Washington if the Big 12 is successful in adding the 4 corners.

The main holdup for the Big 10 is an attempt to avoid the perception that they're responsible for killing the PAC.

With the Big 10 taking this position, it gives Oregon and Washington all the incentive they need to not sign a GOR and work towards pushing the corner 4 out of the conference.

Which is crazy because the BIG10 killed the PAC by taking USC and UCLA.

 

[keepngoal]

Which is crazy because the BIG10 killed the PAC by taking USC and UCLA.

Agreed. That therory just doesn’t hold water. From your point to the initial choosing just two of 12.