Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Clonedogg]

I guess my point was that the PAC talking about Boise St and UNLV is almost a self-fulfilling prophesy that they are done. If a combination of UO/UW plus CU/UA leave, there is no way ASU and UU won't be right behind them to the Big 12. If it is the 4 corner schools leaving for the Big 12, it is hard to imagine OU/UW even doing a 4-5 year GOR with the remaining schools.

At that point it would be over, only 4 Pac schools would remain, and who knows what Cal and Stanford would do at that point.

 

[Clonehomer]

At that point it would be over, only 4 Pac schools would remain, and who knows what Cal and Stanford would do at that point.

It depends on how much the PAC name is worth vs their debts. If the name is valuable, then they’ll raid the MWC to take the most valuable teams from there.

 

[knowlesjam]

I'd assume adding SDSU, UNLV, SMU and UNLV would be to back fill for 4 team leaving the current PAC10 and the conference going into survival mode.

UNLV...had about 5,000 fans at the Iowa State game...in Vegas...at least go after a school like Colorado State...even Wyoming...just no.

 

[ForbinsAscynt]

I think UNLV makes sense from a market standpoint but pro sports has really taken over that town. I’d go SDSU, Memphis, SMU, Boise St.

CSU, Tulane, and Fresno St would be the next in line.

 

[knowlesjam]

I think UNLV makes sense from a market standpoint but pro sports has really taken over that town. I’d go SDSU, Memphis, SMU, Boise St.

CSU, Tulane, and Fresno St would be the next in line.

Better choices, but damn...Memphis and SMU would definitely be Eastern Outliers. Not to mention that you basically are combining the AAC with the remains of the PAC 12. I'd say $20M per team max...given that ORWA likely depart along with at least Arizona and Colorado. Or maybe ORWA stay if the road to the playoffs is easier?

 

[Clonehomer]

I think UNLV makes sense from a market standpoint but pro sports has really taken over that town. I’d go SDSU, Memphis, SMU, Boise St.

CSU, Tulane, and Fresno St would be the next in line.

I think the PAC would do better trying to get NDSU promoted than go after UNLV

 

[Pope]

At that point it would be over, only 4 Pac schools would remain, and who knows what Cal and Stanford would do at that point.

The Pac would be like the rock band Chicago.....only a couple original members left. But then again, that's pretty much what the Big 12 has become.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I think the PAC would do better trying to get NDSU promoted than go after UNLV

I don’t think it matters who they add. Any team they choose to add they are going to get mocked for and the media partners have zero reason to value NDSU of all places. If they lose anymore schools and somehow stay together they might lose P5 status or autobid status.

 

[LLCoolCY]

PAC10 or bust for the Aztec’s

 

[2speedy1]

I don’t think it matters who they add. Any team they choose to add they are going to get mocked for and the media partners have zero reason to value NDSU of all places. If they lose anymore schools and somehow stay together they might lose P5 status or autobid status.

I could see......

If the Pac loses a couple more teams and they backfill with several teams from the MTW/AAC, schools like Montana/St, and NDSU get a hard look if/when the MTW/AAC backfills.

Seems like a logical step, not that I think its the best idea. I just dont know if it is a great plan to continue to upgrade G5s to P5, and FCS to G5. At some point it seems it makes more sense to consolidate conferences in each vs continuing to increase the number of teams.

 

[jctisu]

Wait Boise State? If that would ever come to fruition what a giant egg on the face of the PAC-12 who consistently talks about about their academics and would basically never lower themselves to the likes of Big 12 schools let alone Boise State.

 

[Gunnerclone]

 

[Clonehomer]

I don’t think it matters who they add. Any team they choose to add they are going to get mocked for and the media partners have zero reason to value NDSU of all places. If they lose anymore schools and somehow stay together they might lose P5 status or autobid status.

There really isn’t P5 or autobid in this CFP. It’s just the top 6 conference champs regardless of which conference they come from. So the PAC has incentive to downgrade other conferences to make sure they don’t jump them. Of course, that’s all subject to change in a couple years and we have no idea what it’ll look like then.

But then again, I’d think we’d want to maintain the number of conferences when those CFP votes happen. So who’s knows what’s really the best situation?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I’m actually shocked that the big ten attendance drop is only 5.7% from 21-22. Would have guessed it’s higher but that’s probably fudging some numbers already.

 

[ISUTex]

I’m actually shocked that the big ten attendance drop is only 5.7% from 21-22. Would have guessed it’s higher but that’s probably fudging some numbers already.

probably covid related?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

probably covid related?

Ehhh maybe 2021 got a boost because you couldn’t show up in 2020 but I think it’s just more about how many of the second tier teams were god awful last year. Nebraska, and Wisconsin fired their coaches, sparty was horrific to watch after the year before, and Iowa was ungodly boring. Add in that the other schools were the usual level of bad (except for Illinois) OSU has struggled with selling out for awhile and I’m just stunned the drop wasn’t bigger.

 

[HFCS]

I could see......

If the Pac loses a couple more teams and they backfill with several teams from the MTW/AAC, schools like Montana/St, and NDSU get a hard look if/when the MTW/AAC backfills.

Seems like a logical step, not that I think its the best idea. I just dont know if it is a great plan to continue to upgrade G5s to P5, and FCS to G5. At some point it seems it makes more sense to consolidate conferences in each vs continuing to increase the number of teams.

Montana schools fit right into MWC footprint, WSU fits right in too. It would be a very fan friendly conference at that point for the northern teams like the old Big 8 was.

 

[HFCS]

Wouldn't adding more **** teams just lower the per school payout? I doubt those 4 schools make the tv/streaming partners want to pay more.

I would think adding those programs means they are just certain they are losing at least 4 among Ore/Wash/4 Corners.

Add some now so it's less of a scramble later.

There were several points I thought B12 should've just added BYU as a pro-active move. Of course BYU was one of the few available that didn't take a larger cut than they create.

 

[HFCS]

I guess my point was that the PAC talking about Boise St and UNLV is almost a self-fulfilling prophesy that they are done. If a combination of UO/UW plus CU/UA leave, there is no way ASU and UU won't be right behind them to the Big 12. If it is the 4 corner schools leaving for the Big 12, it is hard to imagine OU/UW even doing a 4-5 year GOR with the remaining schools.

For whatever reason a lot of times defections happen in pairs. Maybe just coincidence that's how it happened for Big 12 all three times.

I could see CU/Arizona...then OU/UW...then ASU/UU. Or maybe it all happens at once or maybe just one pair.

I guess southwest conference was 4 all at once.

 

[ISUTex]

Ehhh maybe 2021 got a boost because you couldn’t show up in 2020 but I think it’s just more about how many of the second tier teams were god awful last year. Nebraska, and Wisconsin fired their coaches, sparty was horrific to watch after the year before, and Iowa was ungodly boring. Add in that the other schools were the usual level of bad (except for Illinois) OSU has struggled with selling out for awhile and I’m just stunned the drop wasn’t bigger.

I'm just brainstorming Big 10 excuses.