Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[20eyes]

Who gives a **** if the Big 10 cares? Iowa State wasn't getting in the Big 10 either way. There will be more than two conferences Relax.

There are more than five conferences now. But I wouldn't be cool with being in the AAC...and that's where we're headed. I'm sure you'd follow ISU if they were in the Missouri Valley, because you're a better fan than me. If ISU falls out of the top tier of the conference system that we're in now, I'm done with CFB. And awesome fans like you are in the minority. The bright side for you is that ISU football tickets will be dirt cheap and there will be plenty of room to stretch out in JTS.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

There are more than five conferences now. But I wouldn't be cool with being in the AAC...and that's where we're headed. I'm sure you'd follow ISU if they were in the Missouri Valley, because you're a better fan than me. If ISU falls out of the top tier of the conference system that we're in now, I'm done with CFB. And awesome fans like you are in the minority. The bright side for you is that ISU football tickets will be dirt cheap and there will be plenty of room to stretch out in JTS.

We aren’t headed to the AAC. Is this post from August 2021?

 

[cycloneML]

We aren’t headed to the AAC. Is this post from August 2021?

Is it fair to say we’re in slightly better shape than pac 12 but worse shape than ACC?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Is it fair to say we’re in slightly better shape than pac 12 but worse shape than ACC?

I don't think that's a lock. The ACC is stuck with a horrible contract, but that's really the only thing keeping it together. It's like sitting on the deck of a ship with a slow leak that will surely sink.

 

[Clonedogg]

We aren’t headed to the AAC. Is this post from August 2021?

I think they're saying, what the AAC is right now (good but outside of the P5), the B12 will eventually be outside of the P2.

 

[cycloneML]

I think they're saying, what the AAC is right now (good but outside of the P5), the B12 will eventually be outside of the P2.

Herbstreit says there will be 3

 

[Cyclonepride]

Herbstreit says there will be 3

Honestly, three major conferences make more sense for the health of college football than two, even if the third is weaker than the top two.

 

[Stormin]

Is it fair to say we’re in slightly better shape than pac 12 but worse shape than ACC?

Actually I would rather be Big 12. Been picked over 3 times and lost teams. Still surviving. ACC is going to get picked over next. Might not be much left. And who joins them? The better ones left will join with the others of the Big 12 to establish a P3 that will get decent money but not P2 money. ACC GOR keeps them together in a crappy deal. Majority will end it.

 

[2speedy1]

There are more than five conferences now. But I wouldn't be cool with being in the AAC...and that's where we're headed. I'm sure you'd follow ISU if they were in the Missouri Valley, because you're a better fan than me. If ISU falls out of the top tier of the conference system that we're in now, I'm done with CFB. And awesome fans like you are in the minority. The bright side for you is that ISU football tickets will be dirt cheap and there will be plenty of room to stretch out in JTS.

So....What do you suggest. We could be in a much worse situation.

It is pretty obvious we are not getting an invite to the B1G or SEC any time soon. SO?

What is your idea?

Personally I think we better do our best to make sure we go on offense to be the best of the rest. To be a P3. To work to make sure we build strength and stability, and strengthen what we have.
To be the last standing of the ACC, P12, B12 when all the dust settles.
To get to and be as close to even footing as possible to the B1G and SEC.

Then maybe we can be at or near the top of that conference and maybe someday if there is another complete reorganization we will be included being in the best of the P3.

But I dont feel like giving up and throwing in the towel because we arent in the B1G or SEC. I dont think many of us believed that was a huge possibility. But we are in a decent position and much better than where we were a year ago.

In 5-10 years there easily could be 3 conferences of 20-24 teams, and 5-10 years after that there could be 2 of 36, or something completely different. We just need to continue to work to keep us moving in the right direction.

Things could and can always get or be better, but they can or could get or be much worse too.

 

[WhoISthis]

Honestly, three major conferences make more sense for the health of college football than two, even if the third is weaker than the top two.

I agree.

I also think if the top leftovers can think long term about things, or even just the AZ, ASU, CU types, it is best if that 3rd super conference forms ASAP. If it is close to a step-change, that's 20-24 schools that everyone for decades as associated as top level, and a lot of schools that do just as well as most P2s.

If the networks have their way, and the 3 conferences remain but weak or back filling after losing their top brands, the p5 luster and notion of equality goes away quickly

Look at how quickly the perception of the Big 12 is already so awful after OUT, despite it being for years 3rd or better in performance in both sports, and having new blood that was in CFP or CFP contention.

Even fans of schools in the weaker conference now talk about how big the divide is, even though it is basically only 3 schools that matter that changed, and only one of those has been an actual power recently.

Get a Big 18 or 20 on NBC with ND game before or after, then also a game on CBS replacing SEC, and it will be much better than feared. Ideally ESPN would be then forced to spend money to appease the P2 hopefuls in ACC before they just fight their way out, and would wash their hands of the 14 year commitment on the ACC leftovers, agreeing to let them go to Big 12. That's actually cheaper for ESPN than trying to pay ACC at close to P2, or move schools to SEC and then have to subsidize the rest for 14 years in the American (plus leftovers would not agree). The issue is that ACCN would be lost, where as ESPN could make money on that if it owns the 3rd conference (which they should be trying to setup with Big 12)

 

[qwerty]

Mm

And 1 jar.

36K Aggies, 1 mason jar. Sounds kinda trashy.

What is their tradition . . . nobody sits down until the jar is filled?

 

[jdoggivjc]

What is their tradition . . . nobody sits down until the jar is filled?

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[MuskieCy]

Gavin Newsom has entered the discussion.

"Yet despite UCLA's ability to make this decision on its own, Newsom appears to believe that the ripple effect could be as damaging for UC Berkeley -- which will inevitably receive less money as the Pac-12's media deal diminishes in value -- as it will be beneficial for UCLA."

Calif. governor asks UCLA to explain Pac-12 exit

California governor Gavin Newsom said Wednesday he demands an explanation, on behalf of the public, for just how UCLA's move to the Big Ten will be beneficial for not just student-athletes but the history of the partnership with UC Berkeley.

www.espn.com

 

[exCyDing]

Is it fair to say we’re in slightly better shape than pac 12 but worse shape than ACC?

The Big XII is in significantly better shape than the PAC.

The ACC is in slightly better shape than the Big XII as long as their GOR holds. They’re projected to take the #3 spot in revenue per school once OUT leaves the Big XII. It’s not by much - just a couple mil, so likely not enough to poach anyone. Once their GOR is up, will they lose to many members to the Big 10/SEC to stay ahead of the Big XII? Hard to say.

 

[20eyes]

I think they're saying, what the AAC is right now (good but outside of the P5), the B12 will eventually be outside of the P2.

Yeah, I guess some people can't or won't see it. It's here. The B1G and SEC have CFB in check mate. They own the playoff system now.

 

[2speedy1]

Yeah, I guess some people can't or won't see it. It's here. The B1G and SEC have CFB in check mate. They own the playoff system now.

 

[CascadeClone]

Gavin Newsom has entered the discussion.

"Yet despite UCLA's ability to make this decision on its own, Newsom appears to believe that the ripple effect could be as damaging for UC Berkeley -- which will inevitably receive less money as the Pac-12's media deal diminishes in value -- as it will be beneficial for UCLA."

Calif. governor asks UCLA to explain Pac-12 exit

California governor Gavin Newsom said Wednesday he demands an explanation, on behalf of the public, for just how UCLA's move to the Big Ten will be beneficial for not just student-athletes but the history of the partnership with UC Berkeley.

www.espn.com

Explain why???
If i was ucla management, i would just draw a big dollar sign with a green crayon and mail it to him.

 

[WhoISthis]

Explain why???
If i was ucla management, i would just draw a big dollar sign with a green crayon and mail it to him.

Explain why as in justify the process- you better believe we’d be demanding politicians do the same if Iowa did the same to ISU. Prove that the BoR was given the chance to help both

At the very least everything should now be transparent. taxpayers should see how this went down.

More than anything, this is a card to play, no matter how weak, to get cal in the big 10. Did UCLA allow the BoR to play that card?


Getting Cal in the big 10 because they intentionally violated some state rule would be a master stroke move by the State

 

[HoopsTournament]

Why do you keep talking about attendance like it matters in realignment? It doesn’t. Wins and losses barely matter. It’s money, which comes from TV viewers. That’s it. A school can have 100,000 people at the stadium and if no one is turning the game on TV, they’ll be in the MAC.

Everything is true except the very last part. In no scenario ever will a power 5 school drop down to the MAC. Why do people keep saying that?

 

[Pope]

UCLA just said screw you to its sister institution and took the Big 10 money at Cal's expense. At minimum, it seems the California BOR should require UCLA to annually give whatever portion of its payment from the Big 10 is necessary to bring Cal up to its current PAC 12 annual payment level.