Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Stormin

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Well P4 for now, until ACC's day comes.

Day of reckoning is coming for ACC as they become the new source of teams for the B1G and SEC. The Carcass that will be left and the available candidates left to fill and become decent ACC members is dwindling. Big 12 was actually fortunate to get the first choices. BYU. Cincinnati. Houston. Those are actually very good in comparison to some of the future options. Who moves up now?
 

snowcraig2.0

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Not a super hard concept to grasp but the AAC is a tier lower than the Big 12. Soon, the Big 12 will be a tier lower than the P2.
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This news would contradict everything else we’ve heard, which leads me to be skeptical of it. Yormark and the Baylor AD have both talked about being aggressive, but that “nothing is imminent.” Other Pac-12 sources have hinted that this could be a couple of months process rather than a couple weeks.

I hope it’s true, but I doubt it.
 
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Stormin

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Notre Dame staying Independent would be great. B1G follows through and takes Stanford and Washington. AAU. Oregon and Cal out. B1G maybe only will take North Carolina and Virginia from ACC eventually. But that will require a majority of schools opting out.
 

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I think it’s unlikely the B1G expands at all if Notre Dame stays independent. It’s simply too hard for an addition to be worth it financially at this point; the bar is so high.

The corner schools come here and then Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Cal have decisions to make:

1. Add four schools to rebuild the Pac-10: San Diego State, plus whichever other ones the TV networks tell you to add and that the academic snobs can stomach. There’s no way this is worth much money though. But maybe SDSU, Colorado State, SMU, and whichever other Mtn West school is respectable academically would be preferable in a world where the Pac-10 keeps a Rose Bowl bid and the coastal schools don’t have to associate with BYU and Baylor. The new additions could be on heavily reduced shares of TV money - still higher than Mtn West/AAC, but much lower than what Oregon gets.

2. Consider independence (more likely for Stanford and Oregon). Would be a huge risk.

3. Come crawling to the Big 12. We will already be at 16 and this would put us in an intriguing position of strength.
 
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Cloneon

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And that model is a complete disaster for other attempted football league.

The P2 model with 30 some teams removes all the product differentiation from the NFL. Then it’s just the NFL with much lower quality football.

CFB succeeds because it has (well had) great matchups that are largely regional, yet with enough interest nationally because there are fans across the country whose teams are “in the club.” Cutting out good fanbases that watch games and entire states and regions from the club is a risk.

The way the SEC and Big 10 maximize $ is to keep these leagues and teams in the club and throw a playoff access bone, but dominate the playoff spots. Let’s say a P3 with 60 teams and 8 playoff spots. An auto bid for each of the 3 and 5 at large that are dominated by the SEC and Big 10.
It'll be interesting to see if conference championship revenues wain because of so many at large. I would think the smarter move would be to have playoffs at the conference level and of course the CFP. That's the cool thing about CBB conference tournaments. It gives the underdog a fighting chance to make the big dance.
 

AuH2O

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It'll be interesting to see if conference championship revenues wain because of so many at large. I would think the smarter move would be to have playoffs at the conference level and of course the CFP. That's the cool thing about CBB conference tournaments. It gives the underdog a fighting chance to make the big dance.
It might, but if you look at ratings for playoff games, it seems like expansion would still be a net positive. I think people were always concerned that the CCGs and CFP would hurt ratings for big regular season games as those used to be the default playoff and conf. title games, but it didn't really happen. I think the idea of keeping more fans highly engaged late in the season by being in the playoff hunt will overwhelm any de-valuing of big matchups.

I think people look at this wrong. Does and SEC CCG between Alabama and Georgia lose impact in an 8 team playoff if both are going to be in? Sure. I think that's a fair concern.

But realistically by week 10 or so, there are probably 5-8 games that have playoff impact. If there is an 8 team playoff, that late in the season there are still going to be a ton of teams with a reasonable shot. It's about finding that balance between so few teams that there are very few games down the stretch that are CFP-relevant vs. having so many teams it devalues all the games.

Pro leagues seem to be fine with letting a third to half the league into the playoffs, so I have a hard time believing that 8 out of 40-60 teams is too many.
 

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By not participating in the NIL do you mean not letting their athletes participate or not bundling packages for them to have upon signing their scholly.
They are not arranging or helping and recruits get NIL deals. Harbaugh wants playing at Michigan to be a “transformational not transactional experience”
 
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