Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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They’ll probably try, but I see them more SEC than Big10.

Big 10 would favor academics of UNC and Virginia.
Completely agree the Big10 would favor UNC and UVA because of their academics. But like I said above, does UNC FB and MBB benefit more recruiting the SEC footprint than Big10 footprint?

But what other ACC schools are great fits for Big10 if they want to get to 24 schools? Ga Tech and Duke make great sense for Big10 academically, but those are mediocre football programs.
 
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Completely agree the Big10 would favor UNC and UVA because of their academics. But like I said above, does UNC FB and MBB benefit more recruiting the SEC footprint than Big10 footprint?

But what other ACC schools are great fits for Big10 if they want to get to 24 schools? Ga Tech and Duke make great sense for Big10 academically, but those are mediocre football programs.

Poor football and basketball didn’t stop the Big10 from adding Rutgers and Maryland. Although, the TV subscriptions did.

Good points about recruiting, but I think all those mid Atlantic states have enough talent for their needs.
 

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I don't know if these are accurate but if so, even Big 12 teams each get almost as much as Mt West gets as a conference. CUSA might as well just give it away.

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Completely agree the Big10 would favor UNC and UVA because of their academics. But like I said above, does UNC FB and MBB benefit more recruiting the SEC footprint than Big10 footprint?

But what other ACC schools are great fits for Big10 if they want to get to 24 schools? Ga Tech and Duke make great sense for Big10 academically, but those are mediocre football programs.
My out-of-the-loop opinion would rank the B1G's ACC wish list as follows:

1. UNC
2. UVA
3. GT
4. Duke
5. FSU

There aren't any unicorns left that bring both football prowess and academic chops, aside from ND obviously.
 
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My out-of-the-loop opinion would rank the B1G's ACC wish list as follows:

1. UNC
2. UVA
3. GT
4. Duke
5. FSU

There aren't any unicorns left that bring both football prowess and academic chops, aside from ND obviously.
I agree with the 5, but would bump FSU into top 3.

It would be interesting to compare to what SEC's top 5

1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. UNC
4. UVA
5. Ga Tech (Miami if FSU to BIG)

So it would seem the Big10 and SEC could be fighting over the same teams. Could be an interesting face off.

I do feel if the ACC implodes, the Big10 cannot cede FSU and Clemson to SEC. That would mean the SEC would have added UT, OU, FSU and Clemson.
 
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You're right. But it's annoying that most Big 10 fans equate that with actually having a good team.
Right. Bad football from many schools located in areas that are greatly overshadowed by NFL teams. Purdue/Indiana by the Colts, Illinois/NW by the Bears (massively), Gophers by the Vikings (massively), Rutgers and Maryland (fuggetaboutit). Do the large alumni bases of these schools play out in the ratings? Maybe they do, but it seems like the rest of the B1G are just riding the coattails of Ohio State and Michigan (and maybe Penn St) with no apparent advantage over the Big 12 schools.
 
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My out-of-the-loop opinion would rank the B1G's ACC wish list as follows:

1. UNC
2. UVA
3. GT
4. Duke
5. FSU

There aren't any unicorns left that bring both football prowess and academic chops, aside from ND obviously.
FSU is still ranked 55 in us news, not going through the rankings debate again but they would be right with a lot of other big ten schools.
 
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FSU is still ranked 55 in us news, not going through the rankings debate again but they would be right with a lot of other big ten schools.
Yeah but I don't think they're AAU and as silly as it seems anymore I think that still matters to university presidents. That list was just my uninformed swing so who knows, FSU may be at the top. It just seems like they're not as much of a cultural fit which I think matters to B1G leadership. Nebby aside. Who the h*ll knows.
 

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Yeah but I don't think they're AAU and as silly as it seems anymore I think that still matters to university presidents. That list was just my uninformed swing so who knows, FSU may be at the top. It just seems like they're not as much of a cultural fit which I think matters to B1G leadership. Nebby aside. Who the h*ll knows.
ND isn’t AAU either, B1G still wants them. B1G also loves them some markets, I’m sure they would like to get into Florida.
 
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ND isn’t AAU either, B1G still wants them. B1G also loves them some markets, I’m sure they would like to get into Florida.
Yeah AAU wouldn't matter with ND at all. It might not with FSU, I think priority on that criteria is waning but for some in high positions is still a thing.
 

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Are these numbers deceiving because B12 contract is for 12 teams and BIG and SEC are 14? So B12 should have like $62M more in order to compare to other 14 team conferences?
Yeah, I knew that it was unequal number of teams per conference such that the $1,000,000,000 listed for B1G is $62.5M per team while the $380,000,000 listed for Big 12 (38% of B1G number) is $31.7M per team (50.7% of B1G) [62.5% of SEC]
 
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Are these numbers deceiving because B12 contract is for 12 teams and BIG and SEC are 14? So B12 should have like $62M more in order to compare to other 14 team conferences?
Finally, someone to the root of the argument. We can all talk side arguments like 'academics', 'recruiting', etc till we're dead. The reality of it all is $$$ and if the 'value' of teams is backed by the people actually paying the money. And that's not the conference. The only play the conference has in all this is simple: can we convince our media partners to pony up to increase our per school payout? OR do we take a per school hit to add more prestige, markets, stability? The true influencers are not looking at the immediate future, but are already envisioning what the next contract will be and every step of how we can, as a conference, leverage our asset to create 'more' value so the media partners will pony up. That aside, I'm having a blast seeing people dog fight each other.
 

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I don't know if these are accurate but if so, even Big 12 teams each get almost as much as Mt West gets as a conference. CUSA might as well just give it away.

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Great visual on the exponential value of viewership.

3 B1G games w 5M viewers per game every weekend is worth 100x more than 3 CUSA games w 200k viewers per.

The channel and timeslot drive a lot of viewership (half?) but when the value is exponential, then having the biggest brands to drive viewership as much as possible is highly valuable. Thus the scramble to lock up the biggest brands.
 
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Clemson as well.
Clemson fits perfectly as they are right now in the SEC. Not sure if their recruiting/performance would hold up playing SEC teams for a whole season but they feel like a SEC school. Get it’s double dipping into South Carolina but still think it would make sense.

The idea in the story of the ACC schools somehow breaking off and forming a new conference is a weird one but damn that would be fascinating drama.
 
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Clemson fits perfectly as they are right now in the SEC. Not sure if their recruiting/performance would hold up playing SEC teams for a whole season but they feel like a SEC school. Get it’s double dipping into South Carolina but still think it would make sense.

The idea in the story of the ACC schools somehow breaking off and forming a new conference is a weird one but damn that would be fascinating drama.
It is weird. There is a precedent for this breaking off and forming a new one - the WAC to the Mountain West.