Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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LOL @Stormin this whole thread is a waste of 1s and 0s. A little deviation into math talk didn't hurt it. Hell I never even posted in that part.
What would fix this would be to not release ratings until week 5/6 but that will never happen.
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The funny thing about the whole alliance deal is that everyone knew it was complete bullsh!t except for the media and the Pac 12.
In that scenario the Big 12 would absolutely take all six teams.
Who would've thought allying with the conference that just took your two most valuable assets could go wrong?
I wish we could rescind UCF, Houston, and Cinci, and start over with the PAC options.
Considering UCF, Houston, and Cincy have been arguably more successful than most of the Pac 12 schools - without the benefits of being in major conferences - I wouldn't change it. Houston has probably the most untapped potential of any school in the country, while UCF and Cincy have been competitive despite being in lesser conferences. While they'll take a while to adjust, they too have a decent ceiling with growing fanbases compared to the shrinking ones out West. Culturally and regionally, Houston and Cincy fit in perfectly. UCF is a bit of a stretch but they have the Florida connection.
I've been to games at Cincy and Houston. Cincy kind of feels "B12-ish", but Houston does not. I've been to UCF, but not for a game, and UCF feels like a typical directional school or massive community college.
Agreed. SEC teams talk about all those great teams in the conference. But they don't get into the details of how many of those great teams you actually play.
I agree that would happen, based on the brands and the overall cementing the foundation of the Big12.
But I wonder at what point you are losing marginal value? The P12 main problem with their media contract is not only "meh" brands, it's also a lack of prime timeslots- there is probably only 1 really good slot, and maybe a couple okay slots (friday night, and 9pm saturday). So the viewership (and value) of most of those games isn't great. That's the problem.
So if you grab 2 teams, you grab 1 game and can take that best timeslot. 4 teams, a 2nd game, is probably OK too. But 6 more teams is 3 more games a week, and that 3rd game might not be much value. Extend the logic, and you can see why a merger doesn't make sense for the Big12 anymore.
IDK, it's interesting.
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This is the problem with huge conferences. There are only so many linear partners with available time slots. So the big conferences are going to have to be on Thursday or Friday or on streaming. Plus, with a large conference, you are going to have junk games.
Let's say 1-8 Iowa versus 3-6 Indiana. This has the Big 10 Network written all over it. Well, that is already taken with Minnesota at Wisconsin. Ohio State, Michigan, are already on the big networks. Meanwhile, the AAC has 9-0 Memphis versus 9-0 Tulsa for 1st place. They are on ESPN+ while FS1 is obligated to show a Big 10 game which happens to be this Iowa versus Indiana. The casual fan, flipping channels, ends up watching 30 seconds of a 10-3 Indiana win where the Memphis / Tulsa game is much more meaningful.
10-3 seems like a lot of points for an Iowa Indiana game
I know my original thought was a little out there but I am a firm believer that the Big 12 can get in the neighborhood of the Big 2 but only if it is creative.
I think Yormark is on the mark with making entertainment a focus, leveraging basketball strength and expanding the fan base.
My theory on the money is predicated that he continues to expand and there might be different payouts based upon football vs. basketball or other income streams.
Specifically to the delta on the two divisions, if the second division at least equals the ACC then that still makes the entire league a destination of choice but with the CHANCE to make more money by getting into the premier division it allows for team at the top of our conference to remain competitive with the sec and big.
