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Dingus

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He has visited Butler and is visiting Xavier. They have a shot too.

Was his visit to Butler before or after Stevens left? I just assumed Stevens leaving puts a damper on recruiting for Butler until the new coach proves himself.
 

Dandy

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Was his visit to Butler before or after Stevens left? I just assumed Stevens leaving puts a damper on recruiting for Butler until the new coach proves himself.

Rivals says Macura visited Butler on June 27th and Brad Stevens left for the Boston Celtics on July 3rd.
 

LostinIowaCity

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I thought it was a pretty fair article. This may sound crazy to people, but I like our chances with Vaughn more than Johnson at this point.
 

jsb

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Even sugar coating it, that article wasn't too promising...

Good god....I got nothing negative with that. What would be promising to you?

I like that his mom likes Iowa State.
 

enisthemenace

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I couldn't read the article, for some reason, so there is my caveat.

We've all heard hearsay he wasn't impressed on his first visit. Right, wrong or indifferent, his first visit was during the summer. Getting Johnson to come back, during the weekend reported, is positive in my eyes for two reasons:

- He is making a second visit, which makes me think the hearsay may have been just that
- If he wasn't impressed the first time, he will be the 2nd time.

As impressive as Louisville and Big Pitino might be, they can't possibly hold a candle to Ames on that day. Add Hoiberg and Mann...should make a great impression.
 

jsb

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I couldn't read the article, for some reason, so there is my caveat.

We've all heard hearsay he wasn't impressed on his first visit. Right, wrong or indifferent, his first visit was during the summer. Getting Johnson to come back, during the weekend reported, is positive in my eyes for two reasons:

- He is making a second visit, which makes me think the hearsay may have been just that
- If he wasn't impressed the first time, he will be the 2nd time.

As impressive as Louisville and Big Pitino might be, they can't possibly hold a candle to Ames on that day. Add Hoiberg and Mann...should make a great impression.

I'll summerize it for you:

1. People have assumed Louisville is the favorite. His coach thinks it is wide open now.
2. Taking officials to Oregon, Louisville, and Florida State
3. Coach said that Mann and Hoiberg have done a good job showing up for lots of games this summer
4. Coach says he fit in well with the team on his June visit and the style of play fits him well
5. Coach says that Hoiberg and Mann have good relationship with his mom, which will be important
6. Coach is interested in seeing what happens with his decision.

So, you can see why someone would read that article, sugar coat it, and still come away thinking Iowa State doesn't have much of a chance.
 

enisthemenace

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I'll summerize it for you:

1. People have assumed Louisville is the favorite. His coach thinks it is wide open now.
2. Taking officials to Oregon, Louisville, and Florida State
3. Coach said that Mann and Hoiberg have done a good job showing up for lots of games this summer
4. Coach says he fit in well with the team on his June visit and the style of play fits him well
5. Coach says that Hoiberg and Mann have good relationship with his mom, which will be important
6. Coach is interested in seeing what happens with his decision.

So, you can see why someone would read that article, sugar coat it, and still come away thinking Iowa State doesn't have much of a chance.

Welp...jsb has never steered me wrong. Doesn't sound negative to me.
 

State43

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Who said negative. I just didn't get the usual great vibe that you normally get when a player had a great visit. Can't even find one quote from him about his visit here.
 

Cydkar

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I saw nothing negative about it at all. Other than the fact that it wasn't overtly positive.
 

jsb

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Who said negative. I just didn't get the usual great vibe that you normally get when a player had a great visit. Can't even find one quote from him about his visit here.

well, they didn't interview him for the article, so I am not sure how you are going to get a quote from that. The coach said he liked the players.

If you are talking about overall not seeing a quote from him that is another thought. But your comment was about the article and you said that 'even sugar coating it, it wasn't too positive.' My question was what would it take for you to be positive about it? Because I felt like it was an OK article from Iowa State's point of view. If I sugar coated it, I would latch on to the fact that the mother likes Iowa State and that would be a pretty huge positive.

And, hell, we are getting an official visit from a kid who may not have loved Ames as much as we wanted him to the first time. Obviously, he cares enough to come back and that is a positive.
 

Dingus

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Well, for whatever reason I didn't come away from that article thinking Johnson would end up here. Not sure why; perhaps it was the way the coach seemed to qualify positives for ISU with 'we'll see where he wants to go in the end, but...'.

Probably reading too much into it but felt like pointing out I don't feel better about our chances after reading that article either. But then again, chances have seemed slim to me since he expressed so much interest in Louisville.
 

acgclone

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It's hard to take too much away from that article because there aren't any direct quotes from JJ himself. It sounds like his coach thinks he'd be a good fit and his folks trust/like Hoiberg and Mann.

If he sees that at ISU he could be used more effectively and the opportunity to play sooner, that may be enough to sway him.

Hopefully he really likes his second visit.