Recruit Lists v2.0
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Not sure, but as reported by 501 earlier in this thread, Kostas is not coming to Iowa St.
Yep, if Monte goes we might have to do the JUCO scramble just to make up the numbers for 16/17 but they can always be pushed out after we stabilize.
Must have missed that. What authority does 501 have? I honestly don't know and haven't heard of him
Staff still targeting Mar.
@EvanDaniels: 2017 forward Goanar Mar has had Minnesota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Iowa State & Creighton in to see him over the past week.
@EvanDaniels: 2017 forward Goanar Mar has had Minnesota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Iowa State & Creighton in to see him over the past week.
Anyone think one of these scholarships is going to Jordan Ashton? I'm not a fan of it but I know it was talked about and we shouldn't be surprised if one does.
It must be exhausting being a high level major sport recruit. How many visits, texts, and calls you get must get ridiculous, and frankly irritating.
He has a good track record with info.
Regardless, a pretty good rule of thumb is that when we hear our name associated with an offer to a particular recruit, and there is dead silence for the next 2-3 months with no media mentions between us and the recruit, it means that at least one party has written the other off.
For those of you super-interested in stars, rankings, and how our somewhat non-conventional, highly-weighted juco class compares to more traditional high school ones. I've done a little analysis of 247's rankings (not their composite), and how they have our JUCO's pegged in their latest rankings. Keep in mind that, as of right now, they probably give the overall most favorable rankings of all the recruiting sites to our guys, so other sites mostly have our guys at lower levels. Also, these rankings will change some between now and when things get finalized next spring (for the good or bad). With that said, here you go:
-Overall, they've got our recruiting class ranked as #25 in the nation and #2 in the Big 12
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-12
-Here is now a quick breakdown of each guy:
Solomon Young
# Stars: 3 star
Recruiting Score: 89 (not a ranking, just their overall score)
National Ranking (High School): 123 (they do this based on the above recruiting score)
http://247sports.com/Player/Solomon-Young-35849
Donovan Jackson
# Stars: 4 star
Recruiting Score: 91
Juco National Ranking: 7
High School Equivalent Ranking: #94 - #104 Range (based off of a recruiting score of 91)
http://247sports.com/Player/Donovan-Jackson-85927
Emmanuel Malou
# Stars: 4 star
Recruiting Score: 93
Juco National Ranking: 3
High School Equivalent Ranking: #56 - #65 Range (based off of a recruiting score of 93)
http://247sports.com/Player/Emmanuel-Malou-83684
Now, you can see a little of why CW says Malou is our best recruit since Craig Brackins, even though I think he is using more than just rankings to base that statement on (other offers, videos, other rankings sites... etc.). From a rankings standpoint, Matt Thomas was probably the closest with a 247 national high school ranking of #69. However, I'd disagree with CW's statement, not based off of Matt Thomas, but rather based off Royce White (4 star #26 national 247 high school ranking as a Minnesota recruit). Now the naysayer to me would say that Royce was a transfer and not a recruit, but couldn't you somewhat say the same thing about Malou being a Juco transfer? Regardless, it all depends where you draw the line I guess.
Also, when I say Malou compares to a #56 - #65 high school guy, does he really exactly? On the one hand, he is probably more physically and mentally mature than his high school equivalent due to being a couple years older. However, on the flip side, you've got 2 years of eligibility compared to 4 years for a high school kid. Shoot, even Royce came with 3 years eligibility (even though he only did one). Regardless, hopefully someone finds this useful to put things in perspective. If not, I'm sure someone will criticize me with the standard "stars are stupid and completely don't matter" cliché. However, I find it funny that posters use that line more in football (where we get crappy, low-star recruits), and less in basketball (where we get decent, higher-star recruits). Play-on.
-Overall, they've got our recruiting class ranked as #25 in the nation and #2 in the Big 12
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-12
-Here is now a quick breakdown of each guy:
Solomon Young
# Stars: 3 star
Recruiting Score: 89 (not a ranking, just their overall score)
National Ranking (High School): 123 (they do this based on the above recruiting score)
http://247sports.com/Player/Solomon-Young-35849
Donovan Jackson
# Stars: 4 star
Recruiting Score: 91
Juco National Ranking: 7
High School Equivalent Ranking: #94 - #104 Range (based off of a recruiting score of 91)
http://247sports.com/Player/Donovan-Jackson-85927
Emmanuel Malou
# Stars: 4 star
Recruiting Score: 93
Juco National Ranking: 3
High School Equivalent Ranking: #56 - #65 Range (based off of a recruiting score of 93)
http://247sports.com/Player/Emmanuel-Malou-83684
Now, you can see a little of why CW says Malou is our best recruit since Craig Brackins, even though I think he is using more than just rankings to base that statement on (other offers, videos, other rankings sites... etc.). From a rankings standpoint, Matt Thomas was probably the closest with a 247 national high school ranking of #69. However, I'd disagree with CW's statement, not based off of Matt Thomas, but rather based off Royce White (4 star #26 national 247 high school ranking as a Minnesota recruit). Now the naysayer to me would say that Royce was a transfer and not a recruit, but couldn't you somewhat say the same thing about Malou being a Juco transfer? Regardless, it all depends where you draw the line I guess.
Also, when I say Malou compares to a #56 - #65 high school guy, does he really exactly? On the one hand, he is probably more physically and mentally mature than his high school equivalent due to being a couple years older. However, on the flip side, you've got 2 years of eligibility compared to 4 years for a high school kid. Shoot, even Royce came with 3 years eligibility (even though he only did one). Regardless, hopefully someone finds this useful to put things in perspective. If not, I'm sure someone will criticize me with the standard "stars are stupid and completely don't matter" cliché. However, I find it funny that posters use that line more in football (where we get crappy, low-star recruits), and less in basketball (where we get decent, higher-star recruits). Play-on.
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Small and Robinson need to pick it up. Otz is owning them right now and is also the lead assistant for Long
Anybody have any insight on the chances with Cameron Lard? Hines mentioned the staff would be meeting with him too but haven't heard anything since
Is it possible they are focusing more on the juniors to be and Otz is focusing as lead on 2016?
And to think that there was a decent size contingency on here not very happy when Otz came back and claimed he was overrated with his recruiting.
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