Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[BigJCy]

So now the Mountain West & American think THEY will be the ones picking up the Big 12 teams huh:

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I'm thinking that the days of simply dividing a total payout by the number of schools is going to end. Why should the SEC, if it is driven by the schools in it, pay the same to Alabama and Vanderbilt? You might end up with one school (Bama) getting $100M per year while Vandy gets $40M. I definitely could see that as being a stipulation to membership in the BIG. We are far from the drawing power of OSU...why should we get the same allotment? But, that is for the conferences to deal with.

Maybe that is a good question to address here...would you, as Iowa State, take membership in the BIG at say, 50% of what OSU will get? Yeah, I know, dumb question, of course we would. Especially if the alternative is $10M per year in the AAC.

This is exactly what the Big 12 did 20 some years ago. UT, OU, Neb, and A&M got to keep extra money and the other 8 schools got less. It did not contribute to conference stability, to say the least.

 

[Triggermv]

So now the Mountain West & American think THEY will be the ones picking up the Big 12 teams huh:

We see you KSU

 

[clonedude]

So now the Mountain West & American think THEY will be the ones picking up the Big 12 teams huh:

That's how bad the Big 12 is now.... the MWC is thinking of adding our schools to their conference, instead of the other way around. Puke.

 

[Statefan10]

So now the Mountain West & American think THEY will be the ones picking up the Big 12 teams huh:

This has KSU written all over it. They even made the graphic in their colors.

 

[surly]

We see you KSU

No doubt!

 

[BigJCy]

That's how bad the Big 12 is now.... the MWC is thinking of adding our schools to their conference, instead of the other way around. Puke.

Yep, life changes in a hurry.

 

[ForbinsAscynt]

G5 is not immune to super conferences. I’d imagine they might want to join forces. MWAC
MWC WAC MAC all rolled into 1

 

[AlumfromAmes]

So, if A&M and Missouri oppose the assimilation of Texas, would they consider leaving for the Big 10? Seems like a pretty good way to say screw you SEC.

 

[Cloneon]

I've seen projections of a $20 million per year increase in SEC per school revenue, yes, from fifty to seventy million each.

How on earth could anyone believe 'projections' in this atmosphere? Projections are tainted honey preying on the gullible. At this time I would question the math of every source.

As an side. Is there anyone else who hates that the site remembers a post you 'started' but chose to 'abandon' and, yet, it still posts next time you respond to anything else in the thread? I've had to get real quick with the 'edit' feature.

 

[theshadow]

This is exactly what the Big 12 did 20 some years ago. UT, OU, Neb, and A&M got to keep extra money and the other 8 schools got less. It did not contribute to conference stability, to say the least.

Amazing how the 4 schools that were in it just for themselves kept being in it for just themselves, to the point of not even being able to stand each other while ******* over the other 8 schools.

 

[surly]

How on earth could anyone believe 'projections' in this atmosphere? Projections are tainted honey preying on the gullible. At this time I would question the math of every source.

Well, that's fine. It's all conjecture at this point. I'm just writing what people have projected.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

So now the Mountain West & American think THEY will be the ones picking up the Big 12 teams huh:

That's exactly what will happen to the ones that don't find a home. It costs a fortune to get a new league up and running. The AAC and MW already have all of that infrastructure in place and would also be able to open up their media deals with new membership.

 

[MeanDean]

Amazing how the 4 schools that were in it just for themselves kept being in it for just themselves, to the point of not even being able to stand each other while ******* over the other 8 schools.

Exactly. And if/when the B1G or SEC go this route the infighting starts and the end is unavoidable.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Hmm, so this is their plan, when they’ve got all the elites in the same conference beating up on each other … “We’re the SEC, it just means more, 3 wins in our conference is worth 7 anywhere else”

 

[1UNI2ISU]

The Big 12 was doomed from the very start. The Texas schools needed the Big 8 way more than the Big 8 needed the Texas schools at that point and the Texas schools got everything they wanted right down to Ma Richards getting Baylor in when it should have been TCU from the start.

 

[Cyched]

This has KSU written all over it. They even made the graphic in their colors.

We shall see

 

[NWICY]

In a couple of years, ESPN will own all the SEC rights including OU and Texas. Their customers in the southeast are going to be paying for this dismantling.

I hope they charge the snot out of their new product, I won't pay for it.

 

[KidSilverhair]

G5 is not immune to super conferences. I’d imagine they might want to join forces. MWAC
MWC WAC MAC all rolled into 1

Remember this imaginary bad boy from the last time this happened?

 

[hawkfan]

I think going big and swinging for the fences is certainly something the Big 10 is considering. However, due to ACC GoR I think that's going to be a really heavy lift.

But you are correct that the Big 10 is going to run into a problem with OSU, but it's probably a lot more feasible and easier to accept an uneven revenue sharing model rather than try to use expansion as a sole means to keep OSU happy financially. Simply put, you aren't going to expand your way using an even distribution to make significantly more money, if any without absolutely hitting it out of the park in terms of poaching. And they may run into the requirement to expand for media inventory, so they don't have the luxury to stay at 14. We don't know yet.

But people need to give up this idea that they are going to only expand if a team is worth an extra $50M on a TV contract because 1. No one will be, 2. They may not have a choice, and 3. They can and will probably have a different set of contracts and model in a few years, which may include uneven distribution. So...

Adding Oregon and USC would increase the total media contracts value by $X. Adding ISU and KU would increase the total media contracts value by $Y.

But it's not as simple as $X>$Y. The fact is KU and ISU are probably going to be far more willing to forgo money than any of the PAC members, certainly a USC or Oregon. The ACC GoR is such that Clemson or ND probably couldn't forgo anything from the Big 10.

I'm going to go ahead and bet that the B10 isn't going to change the model that's led to it's long term stability while nearly every other conference (outside the SEC) has had defections or threats of defections. Adopting the revenue model that collapsed the B12 seems like a pretty foolish decision and there's no scenario where any B10 schools would vote for it.

A more likely outcome would be tOSU leaving the B10 if they felt they could either A.) Make significantly more money elsewhere. or B.) No longer compete for national championships in the B10. In order to avoid that playing out, the B10 needs to make a move to create a better football conference, that's why I think you're going to see the B10 join up with the top of the P12.

The boost doesn't really come from a "per team added" basis, that's just functionally how it's measured. The boost will come because there is no longer a B12 or P12 conference to bid on, so you've consolidated premium inventory and reduced competition, increasing the bid for the B10 inventory. Would a merged B12/P12 get a bid? Absolutely, but if you remove Texas/OU/USC/Oregon/Etc. the bid might be $12M per school instead of $35M per school - the difference would get bid towards the B10 contract.