Best not to play your cards too early. Given contract dispute, it's no wonder the B12 isn't mentioned.
Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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I’ll bet JP already has 95% confidence how this is going to go for ISU and where we will end up. He is just too smart to say anything.
I assume that if there's an alliance there are agreements not to take any schools from the allied conferences. I don't think anyone in the Big 12 would sign off on that right now.
I'm not picking on your response specifically here...
...but this reminds me a little of all the criticism Bowlsby took for not preventing OU and UT from leaving for the SEC. Where was his plan? Why didn't he do something? And while it did look bad that he was caught so off guard, the uncomfortable truth is that there was really probably nothing he could have done.
I think that's a lot like what Pollard is facing here. I'm sure he has a "master plan" but he could execute it brilliantly - indeed, he has been building us up to better position us for this moment for years - and we could still be on the outside looking in. We've done everything we can but we are not in control of our own fate.
(And to be fair, very few schools in our position would be. We're just among the schools who drew the short straw of an unstable conference with bad partners instead of landing in a stable home 100 years ago.)
We just have to hope that sanity prevails at some point. It's unfathomable to me that someone can look at what we've built and say we have no value.
I just stated in another thread that if this were a bad thing we'd have heard Bowlsby, Pollard, and all the other AD's from the Irate8 absolutely screaming. Instead, we've heard nothing.
A source at Iowa State mentioned that the Big 12 can't really say anything if they hope to get the $140M out of Texas and Oklahoma.
So no one should be shocked that we are being "excluded" from this
I for one love to see an alliance against the SEC forming. ISU is the only relevant football school having AAU status. We will be fine as long as football stays relevant. Win a Big 12 title and another NY6 bowl is a great way to pave your own path
So no one should be shocked that we are being "excluded" from this
I for one love to see an alliance against the SEC forming. ISU is the only relevant football school having AAU status. We will be fine as long as football stays relevant. Win a Big 12 title and another NY6 bowl is a great way to pave your own path
It’s remarkable how the big10 was recently a major player and now has to partner with the pac and acc. Talk about a fall from grace . . .
The B1G absolutely could poach those conferences if they wanted to. Their TV money is going to be double those leagues. The Pac and ACC are saved (if at all) by geography and a GOR that lasts another 15 years, respectively.
This is bigger than realignment. It's about shaping college athletics the way they want it and not how the SEC and ESPN want it.
There will not be a big 12 by 2025 at the very latest. there’s no reason for the other conferences to publicly acknowledge any of the remaining schools, because the conference will no longer exist.
At this point, none of the remaining 8 schools matter in these agreements, because they are in a conference that won’t exist.
And also, everybody in these conferences, regardless of affiliation, want ut and ou and Disney to pay for making the move to destroy college Athletics as we know it.
This is not going to settle quickly, it never was. It will be over when exit fees, and revenue, are settled. Until then, we have to be purposely quiet, and let the process complete itself.
I’m quite certain that President Wintersteen, Jamie Pollard, Matt Campbell, and TJ Otzelberger, all have a very good idea what’s going on being the scenes, and where this all ends up for Iowa State
I understand that. And it’s hilarious the big10 now needs partners to push their agenda. They used to be on par with the SEC and those days are over.
I believe after the last go-round, JP has a plan. I’m sure he set contingencies in place to offset sudden changes in the confrence. I obviously don’t know, but most businesses have some kind of threat analysis when borrowing money. COVID was not on the radar. Realignment was and is.
Hawk trolls can ‘dumb’ this all they want but scott dochterman said the same thing. The delaney days are over for the big10.
Delaney is still advising the Alliance including the B10. As it relates to the B10, their primary goal is insure Fox has a path to expanded CFP rights which will increase the value of Fox's bid for B10 rights in the new B10 TV deal. And if Fox bids more, then the odds increase they can fund B10 expansion with KU and ISU.
If their agenda is to keep things as they are as much as possible, they need the votes of the other non SEC conferences. In particular if they want to steer who gets the media rights for the playoffs and how many teams can get into the playoffs they can't do that by themselves, nor can the SEC which they're about to find out.
There is also the issue with access to the playoffs. The big is worried 6 of the 12 are going to be sec teams.
It’s just interesting how it’s the sec and vs everyone else. Much different dynamic now.
From a revenue perspective, the Big Ten will remain on par with the SEC in a "per-school" payout. After they kick in their new TV deal in a couple years, there are projections B1G schools will still make more than the SEC schools even with the addition of UT and OU.
