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Clones85'

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While our #'s may read 51% passes to 49% rushes, that is not the percentage of called plays. Our QB's have ran it 115 times and a good percentage of those are not off designed runs but rather passes where they run. I'd venture to say play calls has Iowa State at 55-45 in favor of the pass. That should be reversed IMO
 

Clones85'

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The Oregon Ducks are 35% pass (288 passes) 65% run (536 rushes). Kenyon has carried it 199 times.

While they are better at it, they are also usually up big the entire second half and thus those #'s are slanted more than what they would typically be in closer games.
 

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While our #'s may read 51% passes to 49% rushes, that is not the percentage of called plays. Our QB's have ran it 115 times and a good percentage of those are not off designed runs but rather passes where they run. I'd venture to say play calls has Iowa State at 55-45 in favor of the pass. That should be reversed IMO

There are probably a number of packaged plays in the mix as well, which could be a run or a pass depending on what the defense does pre/post snap. How would you classify those?
 

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There are probably a number of packaged plays in the mix as well, which could be a run or a pass depending on what the defense does pre/post snap. How would you classify those?

I refuse to believe we have plays that involve reacting to the defense.
 

IcSyU

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I refuse to believe we have plays that involve reacting to the defense.
We do:
*defense shows blitz
Check to zone read.

*defense shows soft zone coverage
Check to zone read.

*defense puts 11 guys in the box and leaves 3 receivers uncovered
Check to zone read.
 

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Maybe we don't need more run attempts but we need to leave a RB in the game long enough to get in a groove. Switching RBs every play can't help consistency or give the RB (whoever) a feel for the game.

Also, we have good RBs we need to get as many on the field at the same time as possible. I love the idea posted previously about putting SJ or Neely in the slot and put JW in the backfield.
 
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Take away the osu overtime and people would complain about woody. Fan favorite yes, our best back, no way. See marv Seiler as an example.
 

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If someone told me in preseason ISU would have more passing attempts (365) than rushing (349) after 10 games, would have scoffed — or assumed we'd be forced to play major catch-up in a lot of games.

I also wouldn’t have believed it if someone told me, back in August, ISU would be dead-even in turnovers, have a 15-yard-per-game advantage in penalties, lose only six fumbles, be 67% on red zone touchdowns, have 20 passing TDs (to 15 for the opponents) — and be only 5-5.
 

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I don't blame SJ for being upset about not getting enough touches. I would like to see the QB under center with a basic T or Bone set to start with. Then run motion out of it. Start with Woody, SJ and JW in the "T". Gives us power inside teh tackles and speed to the corner. In my opinion, this puts the best play makers on the field. (Add Bruns at TE to the mix) Back to basics! :smile: If we need to mix it up bring Jarvis etc into te backfield to use the jet. Make the defense guess and react to our motion and formation change.
 

IcSyU

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I don't blame SJ for being upset about not getting enough touches. I would like to see the QB under center with a basic T or Bone set to start with. Then run motion out of it. Start with Woody, SJ and JW in the "T". Gives us power inside teh tackles and speed to the corner. In my opinion, this puts the best play makers on the field. (Add Bruns at TE to the mix) Back to basics! :smile: If we need to mix it up bring Jarvis etc into te backfield to use the jet. Make the defense guess and react to our motion and formation change.
We'd get destroyed. You need road graders to run that kind of formation. Where are the road graders on Iowa State's line?
 

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A strong run game doesn't take just power. You need guys who understand blocking technique and how to create a crease and backs quick enough to get there. We will never get the 5 star "road graders" or the top RB's who can go 80 yards but IMHO with good line coaching we can run the ball for 5 - 8 yard consistantly. The spread relies on an outstanding throwing QB with WR who can win the ball. Big 12 DC's have reacted with big and athletic DB's that can challenge the WR on the line and also allow for extra pressure by the LB on the QB. With our QB and WR's we are playing right into the DC's strength. IMHO Go Clones!
 

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If someone told me in preseason ISU would have more passing attempts (365) than rushing (349) after 10 games, would have scoffed — or assumed we'd be forced to play major catch-up in a lot of games.

Wow.....seems like the ratio should be 400 to 300, but I imagine passing didn't start catching up until the Big 12 slate.
 

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Game by game run:pass splits...

Tulsa: 50% Rush, 50% Pass
Iowa: 53.2% Rush, 46.8% Pass
Western Illinois: 53.9% Rush, 46.1% Pass
TTech: 65.5% Rush, 34.5% Pass
TCU: 61.4% Rush, 38.6% Pass
KSU: 40% Rush, 60% Pass
OSU: 31.4% Rush, 68.6% Pass
Baylor: 47.1% Rush, 52.9% Pass
OU: 37.5% Rush, 62.5% Pass
UT: 51.7% Rush, 48.3% Pass
 

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Since I had the data, I also ran a quick regression on rushing and passing percentages vs. Point Differential, Points For and Points Against.

Rushing percentage was a good indicator of Points For (r = 0.52, p = 0.121) and a very good indicator of Point Differential (r = 0.71, p = 0.022). Rushing percentage was also a good indicator of Points Against (r = -0.64, p = 0.048). Note that the negative value here indicates that as our rushing percentage increases, our opponents score decreases.

Passing percentage was not a good indicator of any of the factors, nor was it statistically significant.
 

spitfyr36

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Ideal would be 35+ rushs min. I'd love for White to have around 18, Johnson 12, and 5 for Woody. These are all minimums though. Depending on t.o.p. and totally plays run I'd love to see them with more. Jantz shouldn't be asked to carry more than 5 times not including scramble plays.

For this to be the case we would need to average more then 2 yards a rush, and not go down by 3 score in the firs half of games