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DistrictCyclone

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It's the state flag of Mississippi.

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Let me revise Palmer's comment to reflect my own thoughts:

Cannot believe they (Mississippians) have that rebel flag as part of their state flag.....ignorant hicks.
 
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What a bunch of pompous douchebaggery. And why the **** is Mike Slive in the photo? Goddamned glory hog; I hate that sleaze ball more than I can describe.
 

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Let me revise Palmer's comment to reflect my own thoughts:

Cannot believe they (Mississippians) have that rebel flag as part of their state flag.....ignorant hicks.

You've never been to Mississippi, have you? I've driven through twice - it's not hard to believe that they still revere the Rebel flag (that's not actually the Confederate flag).
 

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My high school history teacher was from Mississippi and graduated from Ol' Miss. Had the state flag in his room and defended it one time of why he had it up while we were talking about the Civil War. He said it had nothing to do with slavery but somewhat of a pride thing for southerners. He is probably one of the smartest people I have ever met and is no hick nor is he racist.
 
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You've never been to Mississippi, have you? I've driven through twice - it's not hard to believe that they still revere the Rebel flag (that's not actually the Confederate flag).

No--but I've been to VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, TN, KY, WV, and AR, and if Mississippi is at all like them, it doesn't surprise me one bit that they still fly the stars-n-bars. That doesn't change the ridiculousness of it, though.

People in SC are very, very nice, but I visited their statehouse once, and wow...they fly a rebel flag on the lawn (because they at least had the tact not to stop flying it on the capitol dome) and a huge statue of Strom Thurmond (long-time segregationist) in front of the building.
 

jdoggivjc

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My high school history teacher was from Mississippi and graduated from Ol' Miss. Had the state flag in his room and defended it one time of why he had it up while we were talking about the Civil War. He said it had nothing to do with slavery but somewhat of a pride thing for southerners. He is probably one of the smartest people I have ever met and is no hick nor is he racist.

He's not necessarily wrong - the popular belief of Southerners is that it is a symbol of Southern pride. The problem with symbols, though, is that they're all up for interpretation. Much of America views it as a symbol of racism and slavery, therefore it is a symbol of racism and slavery, whether it was ever intended to be or not. What doesn't help the situation is the flag is now used by racist organizations worldwide, particularly in Germany where Nazi images are banned.
 
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He's not necessarily wrong - the popular belief of Southerners is that it is a symbol of Southern pride. The problem with symbols, though, is that they're all up for interpretation. Much of America views it as a symbol of racism and slavery, therefore it is a symbol of racism and slavery, whether it was ever intended to be or not. What doesn't help the situation is the flag is now used by racist organizations worldwide, particularly in Germany where Nazi images are banned.

There is nothing symbolized by the rebel flag that anyone should be proud of. I've heard this "heritage, not hate" argument before, too, but the heritage represented by that flag is one that believes it's okay to declare independence under the phony guise of states' rights so the Federal government can't tell your citizens that it is unlawful to possess other human beings as property.

There are other things to be proud of that set the south apart from the rest of the country than a flag symbolizing treason, slavery, and one of the bloodiest, most senseless wars in history...like sweet tea, boiled peanuts, red dirt, and adult illiteracy. Pick another symbol already, you jags.
 

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There is nothing symbolized by the rebel flag that anyone should be proud of. I've heard this "heritage, not hate" argument before, too, but the heritage represented by that flag is one that believes it's okay to declare independence under the phony guise of states' rights so the Federal government can't tell your citizens that it is unlawful to possess other human beings as property.

There are other things to be proud of that set the south apart from the rest of the country than a flag symbolizing treason, slavery, and one of the bloodiest, most senseless wars in history...like sweet tea, boiled peanuts, red dirt, and adult illiteracy. Pick another symbol already, you jags.

So who's ignorant?
 

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There is nothing symbolized by the rebel flag that anyone should be proud of. I've heard this "heritage, not hate" argument before, too, but the heritage represented by that flag is one that believes it's okay to declare independence under the phony guise of states' rights so the Federal government can't tell your citizens that it is unlawful to possess other human beings as property.

There are other things to be proud of that set the south apart from the rest of the country than a flag symbolizing treason, slavery, and one of the bloodiest, most senseless wars in history...like sweet tea, boiled peanuts, red dirt, and adult illiteracy. Pick another symbol already, you jags.

It's funny you mention this - the show Outsourced last year mocked this very thing you bring up. Should Indians no longer be able to use the Sanskrit symbol for good luck, the swastika, because Nazi Germans used it as their symbol of hate? After all, if one person deems there's nothing anybody should be proud of...
 
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It's funny you mention this - the show Outsourced last year mocked this very thing you bring up. Should Indians no longer be able to use the Sanskrit symbol for good luck, the swastika, because Nazi Germans used it as their symbol of hate? After all, if one person deems there's nothing anybody should be proud of...

I saw that episode; pretty funny, but it is a little different. Southerners weren't using the rebel flag before they ceded and incited the Civil War; it was created for a specific purpose.
 

jdoggivjc

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There is nothing symbolized by the rebel flag that anyone should be proud of. I've heard this "heritage, not hate" argument before, too, but the heritage represented by that flag is one that believes it's okay to declare independence under the phony guise of states' rights so the Federal government can't tell your citizens that it is unlawful to possess other human beings as property.

There are other things to be proud of that set the south apart from the rest of the country than a flag symbolizing treason, slavery, and one of the bloodiest, most senseless wars in history...like sweet tea, boiled peanuts, red dirt, and adult illiteracy. Pick another symbol already, you jags.

If it's the secession that offends you so, perhaps it's this flag that you should really take offense to:

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That's the sovereignty/secession flag. What is deemed the "Confederate Flag" or the "Rebel Flag" is really nothing more than the battle flag that has been demonized.

And I actually have little problem with states seceding if they truly disbelieve in this nation. My issue is with the slavery itself. The fact that the states seceded based on their "right" to maintain slavery is what makes the subject fiery.
 

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And I actually have little problem with states seceding if they truly disbelieve in this nation. My issue is with the slavery itself. The fact that the states seceded based on their "right" to maintain slavery is what makes the subject fiery.

My opinion as well. If a state wants to secede from the United States by all means go ahead. I think slavery is wrong and it was a dark period in our country, but they had a right to secede if they wanted to.