Shirts for Army game

Stewo

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because of copyrights, we can't use the logo. We must use text or something else that the school doesn't own.
That's not exactly true. If we get them printed through an ISU-approved vendor (which is basically all of them), then they have permission to use any of the ISU trademarks. That means we could use the logos, the word "Cyclones" or "ISU" or whatever else.

I was thinking maybe alliteration would be good for text. Something like "Cyclone Corps" or "Cyclone Company". Just off the top of my head.
 

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That's not exactly true. If we get them printed through an ISU-approved vendor (which is basically all of them), then they have permission to use any of the ISU trademarks. That means we could use the logos, the word "Cyclones" or "ISU" or whatever else.

I was thinking maybe alliteration would be good for text. Something like "Cyclone Corps" or "Cyclone Company". Just off the top of my head.

I like where that is going.....
 

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What are people's opinions of the shirt that I linked? Yes? No? Other suggestions? Also, someone is going to have to get this moving as far as getting names of people here, getting a shop lined up and getting money collected. It should be someone that lives in Ames that has experience with this stuff.
 

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What are people's opinions of the shirt that I linked? Yes? No? Other suggestions? Also, someone is going to have to get this moving as far as getting names of people here, getting a shop lined up and getting money collected. It should be someone that lives in Ames that has experience with this stuff.
I work with the Ames screenprinters ALL the time, so I've got plenty of experience with that. However, that same experience also leads me to refuse to collect money. I'd be happy to work with the screenprinters if need be, but I will absolutely not be in charge of collecting money. Someone else can do that.

Even with a one-color screen (which I doubt we could get away with on an ACU shirt), we would need at least 30 orders to make the price worth it. We'd obviously also have to actually purchase the shirts, get them delivered, and take them to the screenprinters before they can do their work.

As for the shirt, I'd rather go with the short-sleeved shirt. It's $3.00 cheaper. The Army game is in September, so it's not going to be cold enough to warrant a long-sleeved shirt. If people who want to order a shirt are going to be cold, they can easily layer a long-sleeved shirt underneath this t-shirt. (Go with Cyclone colors, or you can do white if you feel cardinal or gold would clash.) That way everyone can wear it to suit their personal warmth level, and it keeps costs down. Believe me, this opinion is borne out of making (and wearing) a lot of long-sleeved shirts!
 

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Honestly, the best recommendation I would suggest is the following. Contact Jeremy about offering these through the CF store. It can become an investment for him, a way for everyone to "donate" to a site they all enjoy, and then no one is left with such and undertaking on their own unless they really feel up to it. I know I would feel uncomfortable ordering 100+ shirts without any financial backing or deposits from so called users who are "interested" in such a thing.
 

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I work with the Ames screenprinters ALL the time, so I've got plenty of experience with that. However, that same experience also leads me to refuse to collect money. I'd be happy to work with the screenprinters if need be, but I will absolutely not be in charge of collecting money. Someone else can do that.

Even with a one-color screen (which I doubt we could get away with on an ACU shirt), we would need at least 30 orders to make the price worth it. We'd obviously also have to actually purchase the shirts, get them delivered, and take them to the screenprinters before they can do their work.

As for the shirt, I'd rather go with the short-sleeved shirt. It's $3.00 cheaper. The Army game is in September, so it's not going to be cold enough to warrant a long-sleeved shirt. If people who want to order a shirt are going to be cold, they can easily layer a long-sleeved shirt underneath this t-shirt. (Go with Cyclone colors, or you can do white if you feel cardinal or gold would clash.) That way everyone can wear it to suit their personal warmth level, and it keeps costs down. Believe me, this opinion is borne out of making (and wearing) a lot of long-sleeved shirts!

I'll take your advice since you have a history with this. We will need someone to take the money so that no one can back out at the last minute, throwing everything off.
 

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I work with the Ames screenprinters ALL the time, so I've got plenty of experience with that. However, that same experience also leads me to refuse to collect money. I'd be happy to work with the screenprinters if need be, but I will absolutely not be in charge of collecting money. Someone else can do that.

Even with a one-color screen (which I doubt we could get away with on an ACU shirt), we would need at least 30 orders to make the price worth it. We'd obviously also have to actually purchase the shirts, get them delivered, and take them to the screenprinters before they can do their work.

As for the shirt, I'd rather go with the short-sleeved shirt. It's $3.00 cheaper. The Army game is in September, so it's not going to be cold enough to warrant a long-sleeved shirt. If people who want to order a shirt are going to be cold, they can easily layer a long-sleeved shirt underneath this t-shirt. (Go with Cyclone colors, or you can do white if you feel cardinal or gold would clash.) That way everyone can wear it to suit their personal warmth level, and it keeps costs down. Believe me, this opinion is borne out of making (and wearing) a lot of long-sleeved shirts!


My wife works for Broken Arrow Graphics who is a licensed to do this sort of stuff for ISU. But I agree, I would not want to collect money. But all money would have to be collected before an order could ever be placed. Unless you go the route of Jeremy offering them for sale, or someone else as well.
 

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Have we really reached the level of Beat Army t-shirts?
That's not what we're making.

This shirt is going to have a military theme, but we're designing something that people will be able to wear to any Cyclone sporting event, or just out in public. It's not specific to a sport or particular matchup. Yes, the original inspiration is obviously coming because of and for the Army game this fall, but any good shirt should be designed beyond its inspiration.
 

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Some info I found:

Hokay, after reading through the licensing and trademark stuff on the ISU site, we could potentially have the shirts done through a licensed screen printer and be able to use the I-State logo, etc...

These are some of the screen printers who are licensed under ISU. They're all in the Ames/DM area except one that's in Marion. They may be able to order in the army camo shirts wholesale, so it's cheaper. I haven't looked into any of the sites yet to see what they offer.

Signify - Custom Screen Printing and Embroidery - A Sigler Company
www.dogtownu.com
www.tshirtshack.com
www.broken-arrow.com
http://www.greatplainsapparel.com
www.intensitee.com

Obviously, the more shirts that are ordered, the cheaper they are. And if we stick with one color printing vs. 2-4 they'll be cheaper as well. Printing on both front and back will add expense. But if we provide the artwork as opposed to having them create something, that should help a little with costs.

I'm trying to see if I can find the font used by the athletic department anywhere to work on some potential designs.
 

Stewo

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Honestly, the best recommendation I would suggest is the following. Contact Jeremy about offering these through the CF store. It can become an investment for him, a way for everyone to "donate" to a site they all enjoy, and then no one is left with such and undertaking on their own unless they really feel up to it. I know I would feel uncomfortable ordering 100+ shirts without any financial backing or deposits from so called users who are "interested" in such a thing.

IMO, that would just add more to the cost, unless we can find away around that.

Have we really reached the level of Beat Army t-shirts?

It's a good idea. Plus, they aren't beat Army shirts. They are just shirts that could be worn that day.
 

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