Like the players, I would bet they were also rather fatigued. Personally, I am puzzled most on the first of the two non-calls on interference/goaltending.
Sideline Rules (in KU/OU game)
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Like the players, I would bet they were also rather fatigued. Personally, I am puzzled most on the first of the two non-calls on interference/goaltending.
IS KU that hard up for cash that they couldn't take out some seats to move the scoring table back a couple of feet after they plastered it with message billboards? Hilton's scoring table has a big message board, but it seems that the 3-ft depth guideline from the court diagram is still being adhered to.
There seem to be several "3 foot rules" being discussed:
1. The inbounding player has a space 3 feet wide to move (and unlimited depth, when possible).
2. The court is to be designed with a space 3 feet wide around the court.
3. The defender needs to stay 3 feet inside the out of bounds line.
The first two are clearly in the rule book. The third one isn't. Rather, it simply says that the defender can't cross the out of bounds plane. It seems that the third rule is a carry-over from an old high school rule. It makes sense that the ref should give the player room to in-bound the ball, especially when the sideline is as tight as at KU. However, I have yet to find evidence in a rulebook that it the third one is an actual rule.
Thank you for perfectly stating how a rival watches a game. Two blatantly obvious screw job calls go against KU and it's "a pretty good job". Hilarious.
Look at the picture. This is the diagram cited in Rule 1.
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...m_20150820.pdf
Actually I am not sure how I did that. Certainly didn't mean for that to happen... Sure does look stupid though..
Glad to hear from the Blum himself. So, what are your thoughts on the "rule" that a defender must stay 3 feet inside the boundary line? Is it a rule? A carry-over from high school? Common sense?
Have you seen a ref enforce this rule in an Iowa State game? I seem to recall at least one instance, namely, when Hogue batted a last second shot away in the Okie State game last year, and they made a big deal about McKay having to back away from the line for the final in-bounds play.
This has been an issue IMO that is the real problem. Officials doing to many games across time zones with no rest in between. I had a person suggest that it should be a rule that an official could not ref in two (in this case 4) games in a row in different time zones without a days rest. This will never happen because there are so few good officials and conferences feel they need the best ones for big games. No official should do 4 games in a row with the travel that was done by Higgins.
I didn't care who won the game. In 2 months I'll know who I wanted to lose this game, but it doesn't make much of a difference to me now.
But please, you desperate attempts to divert attention is fun to watch.
Not sure what is so bad about ref-ing a 2-3 hour game each day for four days in a row. Travel isn't that big of a deal. And Higgins seemed to be doing a good job last night. An age limit might make more sense. The ref who made the bad call on Mason, gave Self the T, and made the non-call on Mason at the end seemed to be pretty old. However, I don't really think age had anything to do with it. This was a pretty good crew and I said so during the game.
Anybody else old enough to remember Todd Jadlow of Indiana nailing Kent Hill in the face with the ball to get him to back off on an in-bounds play? Tom Davis' hack-and-slap press almost always had the guy guarding the in-bounder jumping around like a kangaroo on crack and invariably stepping over the end line. Reason #2,476 that I hate Iowa.
On that first interference, I am wondering if that is just something the refs aren't looking for, and they're looking at the rebounders instead. I remember a couple other instances where a player knocked a ball out from the hoop and the refs didn't notice. Maybe it's like Woodbury on the tips, they just don't have good coverage of something like that.
man, someone get tuco a tube of prep H, his butthurt is flaring up pretty good for a win last night.
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From your view point, what exactly do you see here?
Mason's feet are across the line, but the ball is already in the air. I don't think there's anything wrong with him crossing the line or making contact once the ball is in the air. After rewatching some of these videos of the play, I'm not sure that Mason DID touch Hield (though he was very close) until after deflecting the pass. That said, Mason did appear to "deflect the pass" before it had left Hield's hands - though Hield was clearly in the throwing motion - so I'm not sure how much wiggle-room there is in the rules for that. Still wish Hield would have climbed onto the scorer's table :yes:
Just shows that ESPN doesn't understand the rule (or lack thereof) any more than some people on here.
If you watch the video, Mason clearly broke the plane of the sideline with his hands/arm, a violation. Only a complete moron or clueless homer could argue otherwise.
The integrity of the game would have better served if the ref allowed a fair amount of room.
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