Go see it. Holy **** it’s great. Coogler has yet to make a bad movie and honestly this might be his best. And it’s Michael B. Jordan’s best acting easily. Best of the year so far.
Sinners
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I’m in the minority, I appreciated the film but I was disappointed by it. I felt like every time the film got going it would step on its own toes and kill the momentum. And this film had plenty of moments that were outstanding (including one sequence that I won’t spoil here… iykyk)
The trailers and ads really hype up the supernatural action, but none of that really gets going until about 2/3rds through the movie.
I agree about Michael B. Jordan though, I liked him before but this is his best performance to date.
The trailers and ads really hype up the supernatural action, but none of that really gets going until about 2/3rds through the movie.
I agree about Michael B. Jordan though, I liked him before but this is his best performance to date.
Saw a theory online about Sammie that ... I either missed in the context of the story, or they just didn't explain well enough in the film. If there was a little more exposition on this, I feel like it would have made the movie infinitely better by giving Sammie's part in the tale more weight:
There's a lot of evidence pointing toward the fact that Sammie made a deal with the devil prior to the events of the film to enhance his musical abilities. In the scene in the car as he and one of his cousins (can't remember if it was Smoke or Stack), he plays a sample of his music much to the bewilderment of his cousin who can't believe how good his younger cousin suddenly sounds with the guitar. It also better explains why the main vampire was so keen on finding Sammie and taking his soul for his own.
There's a lot of evidence pointing toward the fact that Sammie made a deal with the devil prior to the events of the film to enhance his musical abilities. In the scene in the car as he and one of his cousins (can't remember if it was Smoke or Stack), he plays a sample of his music much to the bewilderment of his cousin who can't believe how good his younger cousin suddenly sounds with the guitar. It also better explains why the main vampire was so keen on finding Sammie and taking his soul for his own.
Stay all the way to the end of the credits. It's worth it.
Interesting theory. The theater I went to didn't have 15-20 minutes of previews so I missed a couple of minutes as I walked in 5 minutes after the advertised showtime so I was wondering if I missed some sort of prologue.
Yeah, they had a brief prologue voice-over that explained that music can at times attract evil spirits, which leads directly into the first scene showing Sammie after the events from the previous night dragging himself back to his dad’s church.
This move has incredible word of mouth legs. It’s only gonna dip around 12% this weekend from opening weekend. A ‘good’ dip in a second weekend is around 50%. For an R rated movie this is unheard of.
That's awesome, doesn't really look like it dropped off during the week, breaking $100mil in... what, 9 days? That's fantastic considering it opened at $45mil last weekend.
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Haven't seen it yet, definitely intrigued though. Can someone explain how Mr movie on murph and Andy gave it a D bordering on an F? Also didnt realize it was a vampire movie until I read some reviews, I'm so confused!
I haven’t heard his review but that really surprise me. Do you know what gist of his complaints were?
That guy is no Ebert. I’m a bit of a movie nerd/snob myself and have some incredibly strong disagreements with him on both popcorn movies and more serious stuff.
I'm going to put my thoughts as a spoiler for those that haven't seen it.
I would guess one complaint could be the From Dusk Till Dawn vibe of the movie as it changes gears about 2/3 of the way through. I wish I hadn't read about the vampire aspect of the movie beforehand. The first part of this was incredible. I had no idea where it was going but it was captivating.
So box office actually went UP from opening weekend by 2%. That never happens. Insane legs and word of mouth.
I just caught this on HBO. I thought it was compelling up until the vampire stuff kicked in. The third act was too rushed and went too off the rails for me.
Sinners is a great film. One of the better ones I've seen the past few years (off the top of my head, I would obviously put it behind the two Dune films but it is way up there for recent films). I think it is out of theaters now, but the second viewing definitely showed me its visual depth and density.
It is not flawless -- nothing is -- but its energy and messiness is much of its charm. I wish we had more films like this one that bend and blend genre conventions rather than constantly being "safe."
It is so many things...
Love letter to the delta blues and ol' time country music
Faust legend
Great Depression narrative
Rumination on American racism
Revenge fantasy
Serious adult relationship drama(s)
Vampire horror
Great pump-fake ending
It was nice to see a film dealing seriously with Jim Crow racism with characters bearing the terrible brunt of the discrimination but not letting it define them. They roll their eyes at the oppression and go on with their lives with their families, religion, work, falling in and out of love, and suffering loss. It is banal on some level but makes them feel like real people and adults who have been through a lot. Outside Sammie, who has to grow up fast, these are grown men and women, and they act like it and have earned it given life's toils.
What are a few vampires compared to trench warfare and the Chicago mob?
I think Josh Allen wins the "Justin Verlander Lucky Son of a *****" Award this year.
@AirWalke
It is not flawless -- nothing is -- but its energy and messiness is much of its charm. I wish we had more films like this one that bend and blend genre conventions rather than constantly being "safe."
It is so many things...
Love letter to the delta blues and ol' time country music
Faust legend
Great Depression narrative
Rumination on American racism
Revenge fantasy
Serious adult relationship drama(s)
Vampire horror
Great pump-fake ending
It was nice to see a film dealing seriously with Jim Crow racism with characters bearing the terrible brunt of the discrimination but not letting it define them. They roll their eyes at the oppression and go on with their lives with their families, religion, work, falling in and out of love, and suffering loss. It is banal on some level but makes them feel like real people and adults who have been through a lot. Outside Sammie, who has to grow up fast, these are grown men and women, and they act like it and have earned it given life's toils.
What are a few vampires compared to trench warfare and the Chicago mob?
I think Josh Allen wins the "Justin Verlander Lucky Son of a *****" Award this year.
@AirWalke
Interesting theory. We all know the legend of the Devil giving Robert Johnson the blues "down by the crossroads" for his soul. Another great musical film set in the Great Depression (Oh Brother Where Art Thou?) is 100% explicit in the character of "Tommy" picked up down by the crossroads. The Devil, for all his faults, is a straight dealer, and now he's come to collect his due from Sammie.
At the same time, one thing I liked about this film was it spent zero time establishing any "lore" about where the vampires came from, how they work, and how these ones might differ from any other pop culture clichés. It just ******* sent it and threw us all into the fire and that's what makes it great.
At the same time, one thing I liked about this film was it spent zero time establishing any "lore" about where the vampires came from, how they work, and how these ones might differ from any other pop culture clichés. It just ******* sent it and threw us all into the fire and that's what makes it great.
