Sobering Stat

[cycloneworld]

Reading the Des Moines Register this morning I stumbled upon this not so happy stat:

Iowa State has an all-time record of 0-54-2 against teams ranked among the top six in the Associated Press Poll.

Ouch. Maybe we can break that little streak this weekend.

 

[HILLCYD]

Nope, I am still sober.

I am pretty sure Nebraska was #2 in 1992 when we beat them.

 

[LindenCy]

Nope, I am still sober.

I am pretty sure Nebraska was #2 in 1992 when we beat them.

I am almost positive they were #7.

 

[HILLCYD]

This brings up a good question. Where do peope on here go to get historical stats? I am sure there has to be a good place to get this kind of information out there, I am just not sure where it is.

 

[BigSkyCy2]

Media guides are a good spot.

 

[LindenCy]

This brings up a good question. Where do peope on here go to get historical stats? I am sure there has to be a good place to get this kind of information out there, I am just not sure where it is.

I go off of memory usually and I think many others do too. Here is a link:

FOOTBALL; Nebraska Is Whirled by a Cyclone - New York Times

Looks like they were indeed #7, but also #1 in the NYT computer rankings.

 

[Cyclone90]

This brings up a good question. Where do peope on here go to get historical stats? I am sure there has to be a good place to get this kind of information out there, I am just not sure where it is.

That's easy. Google just rocks. Found this from the NY Times. Pretty fun read. #7 Indeed. Unless you count the NY Times computer poll. :wink:

LINK

 

[HILLCYD]

I go off of memory usually and I think many others do too. Here is a link:

FOOTBALL; Nebraska Is Whirled by a Cyclone - New York Times

Looks like they were indeed #7, but also #1 in the NYT computer rankings.

Great link. I will assure you that most people on this board don't go by memory. If they do they must be Steven Hawking with some of the stats they pull out of their arses!

I was at this game in 1992 and I remember people going on and on about how we beat the #1 or #2 team in the country. Guess I shoulda asked them if it was AP or NYT?

 

[LindenCy]

Great link. I will assure you that most people on this board don't go by memory. If they do they must be Steven Hawking with some of the stats they pull out of their arses!

I was at this game in 1992 and I remember people going on and on about how we beat the #1 or #2 team in the country. Guess I shoulda asked them if it was AP or NYT?

Ha! I usually go off of memory if it is in the last 15 years or so. Longer than that I have to google or wikipedia (I know, bad source, but usually gets you close at least) or check Cyclones.com (it just takes forever to load the PDF though).

 

[HILLCYD]

Just found this beauty too.

College Football by Charlie

 

[besserheimerphat]

What I find most interesting on the College Football By Charlie website is the fact that there has never been an NCAA Champion Football team in D1-A. Lots and lots of BCS Champions and various "poll #1's" (AP, Coaches, Sagarin, etc), but not a single NCAA Champion. And it goes all the way back to 1869.

 

[Steve]

Great link. I will assure you that most people on this board don't go by memory. If they do they must be Steven Hawking with some of the stats they pull out of their arses!

I was at this game in 1992 and I remember people going on and on about how we beat the #1 or #2 team in the country. Guess I shoulda asked them if it was AP or NYT?

While only ranked 7th, I believe that the 92 NU team was on a roll and poised to climb higher in the rankings. Devaney was the AD at the time & during the pregame week he described the Husker squad as possibily the best that he had ever seen at NU.

 

[theshadow]

And the reason that the figure used is "top six" is because ISU has three victories over #7 teams -- 1976 Missouri, 1985 Oklahoma State, 1992 Nebraska -- the highest rated foes to be beaten.

The two ties: at #5 Oklahoma, 1981 (7-7); vs. #3 Nebraska, 1972 (23-23). Curiously, ISU was in the top 20 for each of those games as well.

 

[Cyclone42]

This brings up a good question. Where do peope on here go to get historical stats? I am sure there has to be a good place to get this kind of information out there, I am just not sure where it is.

Here's a good site. It doesn't have articles and such like the Charlie page, but has lots and lots of really good raw data:

Jim and Sherri's Home Page

 

[bigred]

Nope, I am still sober.

I am pretty sure Nebraska was #2 in 1992 when we beat them.

No we had lost to Washington earlier in the year and were rated lower than 6th when losing to ISU that year.

 

[CyCloned]

I am not completely surprised by this. It looks like the Clones have had a lot of oppertunities to break this streak, but they have also, sadly, had a lot of very bad teams. In addition, I would bet that a lot of those losses were to some very good NU and OU teams that routinely pounded the crap out of everyone in the Big 8. That was back in the good old days when the good teams would have 200 guys on the team and take players just to keep other teams from having them. The rule changes have brought some real parity to college FB.

 

[ISUFan22]

Yeah, Cylcones.com says NU was #7 at the time as well...

Football - Schedule - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - Iowa State Cyclones Sports

 

[cycloneworld]

I am not completely surprised by this. It looks like the Clones have had a lot of oppertunities to break this streak, but they have also, sadly, had a lot of very bad teams. In addition, I would bet that a lot of those losses were to some very good NU and OU teams that routinely pounded the crap out of everyone in the Big 8. That was back in the good old days when the good teams would have 200 guys on the team and take players just to keep other teams from having them. The rule changes have brought some real parity to college FB.

Looking at our overall record against OU and Nebraska, the stat didn't surprise me.

If we can somehow beat KU, it will be ISU's biggest upset ever. Probably not the biggest win ever but definitely biggest upset.

 

[theshadow]

Broken down by opponent ranking:
#1 (0-10): Oklahoma 6, Nebraska 4
#2 (0-8): Oklahoma 5, Nebraska 3
#3 (0-15-1): Oklahoma 6, Nebraska 6, Kansas 1, Iowa 1, Colorado 1, FSU 1
#4 (0-9): Nebraska 6, Texas 1, KSU 1, Oklahoma 1, [Kansas 1]
#5 (0-6-1): Oklahoma 3, Nebraska 1, Colorado 1, Missouri 1, Illinois 1
#6 (0-6): Oklahoma 3, Missouri 2, Nebraska 1

By team:
Oklahoma 24, Nebraska 21
Missouri 3, Kansas 2 (including this weekend), Colorado 2
Iowa 1, Illinois 1, Florida State 1, Texas 1, Kansas State 1

So, 80% of those losses were to OU or NU.