Solid if not outstanding offense and a defense towards the bottom of the conference? Fred can leave Ames, but seems you cannot take the Hoiball out of the program.
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Solid if not outstanding offense and a defense towards the bottom of the conference? Fred can leave Ames, but seems you cannot take the Hoiball out of the program.
I don't think Lard will make it through the season. Minutes will be hard to come by with Jacobson, Conditt, and now Young, and he doesn't strike me as a person who will be content with spot minutes.
Would you even say it’s possible we’re just in a common lull during a long season? Hmm, sounds familiar.
This is right on target. A sure fire way to destroy chemistry on a team is to give a player minutes that are not earned. Everyone likes to point Cam's play last year, but the fact is Cam has not been very good this year. He hasn't gotten many minutes, but he hasn't shown that he deserves many. We as fans have only seen a small samples size, but the coaches and players get to see him everyday in practice. I guarantee if he was killing it at practice, he would be playing more. Cam needs to play better and we as a team will be better if he does.
I really like Conditt, I think he has surprised everyone. He is slender, but he is a willing defender. With his attitude and effort, I think we will see him continue to improve. He has the potential to be really good over the next four years. Everyone was complaining about Cam's minutes, but I could make a case that Conditt deserved Cam's minutes in the second half of the Drake game based on his play in the first half. Conditt has earn it.
You mean in the summer? Lol. If you don’t remember go back and look at box scores. Young was playing all season but his playing time dropped in conference play. Prohm even admitted after he finally made the switch and we started winning that he should have done it earlier.
No offense to Conditt, but we are in deep trouble if we are going to rely on him as our primary big in Big 12 play. Playing well for 5 minutes against Southern and Drake doesnt equate to him being able to hold himself against Big 12 frontcourt players.
We absolutely need Lard and Young to be playing significant minutes once we get into conference play.
Im optimistic that Lard will get things figured out and will be a force again. However we've seen this sort of thing with Prohm before like other posters have pointed out. He almost cost our senior laden team a NCAA tournament bid before he realized even one competent frontcourt player out there to play defense and rebound would help.
I could see this thing playing out where Lard can only get 3 minutes, things spiral out of control, and it becomes a huge distraction. Guys who know they are more talented that thos playing in front of them don't take well to playing 3 minutes a game.
First of all, I love your Profile Name. Seeing your location, do you work for Lucas Films?
Second, seeing your location, can you please stop saying we / our with regard to tax payer dollars as I don't think California taxes, even though they are significant in size, are part of Steve's salary. I let it go the first time, but you had to raise it again. : )
In my opinion, Steve's salary (which is moderate for a person in his relative position) does not mean he should care more about the short term (this year's basketball results) than the long term (Cam's life success). Thankfully, I'm pretty sure Jamie Pollard agrees.
I'm just amazed how some posters here talk like Lard is this amazing player that coach Prohm refuses to play. You don't think that coach wants to see the Lard we saw at his best last year too? If we even got 50% of what Lard did in his best games it would add some valuable post depth to this team. We're not in practices to know if there is something else up but we do know based off the minutes he has been on the floor if he doesn't start playing smarter and stay out of foul problems. It's going to be awfully hard to even keep him on the floor when he does come into the game unless you just want to leave him in for 5-10 straight minutes and let him foul out and be done with the debate on if he should be playing more. He's now played a total of 31 minutes and committed 14 fouls. At that rate he'll be lucky to stay in the game much more than 10 minutes right now.
This isn't like last season either where all he had to do was play better than Jeff Beverly and banged up Hans Brase and Young on a roster that literally had no depth. Jacobson has flat out been better than Lard was last season so far, Conditt has played well in the limited minutes he has got, and we know the kind of effort we'll get from Young if he's healthy plus we have a MUCH deeper roster this year so there aren't excess minutes available to just let him figure it out like we had last year. I hope he gets it figured out and becomes a key rotation player for us but what we have seen so far in the minutes he has got he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he's going to carve out a 20 minute role until the foul problems go away and the effort he shows gets better. He may just have to focus on defense and rebounding for a bit and show he can contribute at a high level there first and just let the offense come within the flow of the game. If you are active without the ball on offense you are going to get rewarded with put back baskets or someone is going to find you open on a drive or fast break.
I am rooting for this kid to succeed and I really hope he does both on and off the court but we may just have to have some patience with the process he is going through. There was a point we weren't sure he'd ever step onto campus when we recruited him and he had to sit out a year already to get his academics in order before he even played last year. Then this off court stuff came up he is working through too. I think the coaching staff has been very supportive and accommodating when others may have just told him to hit the road. For his sake and everyone around him I hope he comes out of this a better person and a better player too.
This isn't like last season either where all he had to do was play better than Jeff Beverly and banged up Hans Brase and Young on a roster that literally had no depth. Jacobson has flat out been better than Lard was last season so far, Conditt has played well in the limited minutes he has got, and we know the kind of effort we'll get from Young if he's healthy plus we have a MUCH deeper roster this year so there aren't excess minutes available to just let him figure it out like we had last year. I hope he gets it figured out and becomes a key rotation player for us but what we have seen so far in the minutes he has got he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he's going to carve out a 20 minute role until the foul problems go away and the effort he shows gets better. He may just have to focus on defense and rebounding for a bit and show he can contribute at a high level there first and just let the offense come within the flow of the game. If you are active without the ball on offense you are going to get rewarded with put back baskets or someone is going to find you open on a drive or fast break.
I am rooting for this kid to succeed and I really hope he does both on and off the court but we may just have to have some patience with the process he is going through. There was a point we weren't sure he'd ever step onto campus when we recruited him and he had to sit out a year already to get his academics in order before he even played last year. Then this off court stuff came up he is working through too. I think the coaching staff has been very supportive and accommodating when others may have just told him to hit the road. For his sake and everyone around him I hope he comes out of this a better person and a better player too.
Agreed. We act as though everything surrounding Lard happens in a vacuum, but it has not. He spent a long time away from basketball this summer. Meanwhile, his new teammates were creating chemistry and Prohm was developing a style fit for them.
Also, could it be possible that Lard was a good fit for last year's team and not this year's team? Let's be honest, the two teams are night-and-day. Last year, we had no other option than to throw it in the post. It was always going to be that, Wiggy or Donovan. This year's team is entirely different. We have versatility in THT, Shayok, Jacobson, Haliburton and Babb. We can hurt you different ways. It's just not a team where you throw the ball down low and give Cam space like last year. With the way these guys like to drive, having Cam standing still on the block is not necessarily a great thing.
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I can't wait that moment in a few more years to throw out an obscure reference to Hans Brase when people have completely forgot about him. #longlivetheLucca
Can you and Randy get together and fine tune this theory for a great controversial first question in CSP's next post game?
There's really no mystery here. Coach Prohm has laid it out for us. Cam needs to go as hard in practice and workouts as the staff needs him to, and then he'll play more.
To add to that, Coach Prohm has said that this team needs Cam, so he clearly understands what Cam means to the team.
To add to that, Coach Prohm has said that this team needs Cam, so he clearly understands what Cam means to the team.
In an interview he put the team first, so maybe we don't know what he's feeling whatsoever.
CycloneErik
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A little birdie tells me that Lard will not be playing today.
Talented players that you are referring to don't average a foul a minute taking unnecessary risks on the floor...that's the action of someone who isn't interested in playing. Lard's game of last year doesn't work with the current offensive flow that was established over the first 8 games. Do you change the flow of offense to suit Lard...or do you change the play of Lard to suit the team? Pretty sure we are seeing the results on the floor...
Stop with this bs!!!!! I'm so sick of hearing this argument, you don't know whats going on and neither do I.
He looked pretty damn interested the other night when I watched him swat 2 shots into the courtside seats with authority. Another time I watched him just miss a putback on a dunk, guy was a foot above the trim. He's so disinterested that he already has more blocks than Jacobson in 1/10th of the minutes.
You mean this? Right? Dated 11/25. Before the Orlando tournament. But let’s not let pesky facts get in the way of an agenda
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...-Young-has-broken-bone-in-left-hand-49243639/
