Stack the box...crowd the line

[isuno1fan]

This is all any team needs to do against us. We have no solution. It doesn't matter who is QB.

You should be able to take advantage with explosive plays when teams do this. It isolates your receivers 1 on 1 OR a RB only need clear the first wave of defenders. We seem inept at taking advantage. That is a coaching problem or a talent problem.

That was the single worst offensive performance I have seen by an ISU team in my life. I think we had 3 yards passing at halftime. 4 stupid TOs again from the turnover machine we call a QB. The line doesn't seem to understand how to block given certain defensive schemes. Nobody seems to pick on Bill Bleil but in my mind he has never proven his worth since arriving.

Lots of problems.

Thank god for Wally.

 

[im4isu]

Rutgers in the bowl last year provided the blueprint on how to shutdown our offense. Iowa made those adjustments at the half and shut us down, but the Tulsa & W I'll defense were overmatched so it did not matter. Until our coaches are smart enough to make the adjustments with the talent available, prepare for a steady diet of disappointment.

 

[MNclone]

this has been the formula for years.

 

[Althetuna]

Rutgers in the bowl last year provided the blueprint on how to shutdown our offense. Iowa made those adjustments at the half and shut us down, but the Tulsa & W I'll defense were overmatched so it did not matter. Until our coaches are smart enough to make the adjustments with the talent available, prepare for a steady diet of disappointment.

Agreed. This game felt like exactly like the Rutgers game. I felt like ISU was "out-coached" in both games.

I also feel like ISU makes no adjustments at half time (at least none that make a difference.)


What is most disappointing is the wasted defensive performance, especially in the first half. A pick 6 wasted.

That stupid miscommunication for an interception when ISU had great field position just killed them.

I felt disgusted by the end of the game. What a waste.

 

[cyatheart]

TCU is going to do the same thing. They have to be down there licking their chops waiting to get their hands on our O line and our weak little receivers. Their front 4 will handle our line, and they will play press coverage and there isn't much we can do about it. Maybe they bring a linebacker every now and then. But they won't even have to blitz much.

Our offense just isn't very physical. Really concerned about the offensive line and the direction we are going there. Not just for this year, but down the road as well. Line really hasn't looked very good all year. And the receivers just are never open, don't even have a chance to get open...yikes.

 

[4Cyclones]

Agreed. This game felt like exactly like the Rutgers game. I felt like ISU was "out-coached" in both games.

I also feel like ISU makes no adjustments at half time (at least none that make a difference.)


What is most disappointing is wasted defensive performance, especially in the first half. A pick 6 wasted.

That stupid miscommunication for an interception after a long TV timeout and routes could have been confirmed when ISU had great field position just killed them.

I felt disgusted by the end of the game. What a waste.

FIFY

 

[bostrem00]

Obviously, until Iowa State's passing offense improves....

 

[jdlolson]

When you run the same plays over and over again and every play is in the area of 8 yards or less you are setting your offense up for failure. Its called spreading the defense out not everyone close knit holding hands and singing kum by ya. No wonder why everyone packs the box and brings there safeties in. You are suppose to keep the defense on its toes. Hermans offense did not work for how many years yet we keep the same offensive schemes with coach mess. Steele does make horrible decisions but the offensive play calling is horrid too. keep everything short and the defense is going to continue to bring everyone up its not going to open up the running game either. We have great running backs hand the ball off and on the snap hit that hole. The delay hand offs just give the defense time to fill the gaps.

 

[jdlolson]

This is all any team needs to do against us. We have no solution. It doesn't matter who is QB.

You should be able to take advantage with explosive plays when teams do this. It isolates your receivers 1 on 1 OR a RB only need clear the first wave of defenders. We seem inept at taking advantage. That is a coaching problem or a talent problem.


I agree especially if you watch the Iowa game eventhough the offense did have turnovers in the red zone. If you watch that game there were plenty of times we had one on one coverage on multiple wide recievers and didnt take advantage of it. we would do something like a delay handoff. He calls plays like a middle school coach.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Yep, that has been the way to stop the Mensa offense for the past 3+ years.

Hard to get on Bleil when our scheme marginalizes a good unit to average (and now average to poor). Our RB have not averaged less than 4.7 ypc since Bleil got here. SJ and White are both above 5 ypc this year.

 

[GoClones123]

This is all any team needs to do against us. We have no solution. It doesn't matter who is QB.

You should be able to take advantage with explosive plays when teams do this. It isolates your receivers 1 on 1 OR a RB only need clear the first wave of defenders. We seem inept at taking advantage. That is a coaching problem or a talent problem.

That was the single worst offensive performance I have seen by and ISU team in my life. I think we had 3 yards passing at halftime. 4 stupid TOs again from the turnover machine we call a QB. The line doesn't seem to understand how to block given certain defensive schemes. Nobody seems to pick on Bill Bleil but in my mind he has never proven his worth since arriving.

Lots of problems.

Thank god for Wally.

I agree with most of what you said besides that first line. It does matter what QB we have, if they stack the box you need someone to exploit the coverage on the outside and make a play. The fact that SJ is continually misreading the defense on zone read, and missing wide open recievers is a testament to that fact. Everything in your post backed up the fact that it DOES matter what QB you have.

The sad fact is ISU may just not have one.

 

[isuno1fan]

I agree with most of what you said besides that first line. It does matter what QB we have, if they stack the box you need someone to exploit the coverage on the outside and make a play. The fact that SJ is continually misreading the defense on zone read, and missing wide open recievers is a testament to that fact. Everything in your post backed up the fact that it DOES matter what QB you have.

The sad fact is ISU may just not have one.

True...I meant QB between SJ and JB

 

[Rogue52]

We can't throw over the middle because Jantz has an 87% completion percentage to the other team in that area.

We can't have our receivers make 1-on-1 plays down the field because neither they nor our QB are on the same page with route running.

We can't utilize our backs because we run a read option play that is dependent on the QB making the right read.

Our OLine makes all of the above that much harder too.

We can't kick field goals or PATs for obvious reasons. (This is a recruiting problem, by the way. Rhoads has known for 3 years now that Mahoney and Guyer would be gone in 2012.)

 

[CTTB78]

The key point in CPR press conference is that TT has good skilled players. He was mainly talking about their ability to bring in multiple talented WRs and keep them fresh. We are getting closer with recruiting to be able to the same. Now we need the QB to lay it in there. Why not see if the young kid Richardson can do that?

 

[swarthmoreCY]

We can't throw over the middle because Jantz has an 87% completion percentage to the other team in that area.

We can't have our receivers make 1-on-1 plays down the field because neither they nor our QB are on the same page with route running.

We can't utilize our backs because we run a read option play that is dependent on the QB making the right read.

Our OLine makes all of the above that much harder too.

We can't kick field goals or PATs for obvious reasons. (This is a recruiting problem, by the way. Rhoads has known for 3 years now that Mahoney and Guyer would be gone in 2012.)

Yep, the great synergy of Herman's Mensa offense. The scheme is so intricately faulty it is difficult to identify a singular root cause.

 

[Wesley]

We need to do better against the stacked box. If that mean something different, so be it. Heck, even TT did a double reverse. I think we just want ot run very basic plays and take no chances. Unfortunately, we have been shown in recent games we are not good enough just to blast it out. We had so many three and outs, that our defense had toi do even more than normal heavy lifting.