Staiger AGAIN has ZERO points inside the 3P line!

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He came down pretty hard with his hand flat. It looked like he jammed his shoulder upward. I don't think that would cause a separation but it sure looked like it hurt like hell.
Watch our offense sometime. We have 3 guys moving and 2 guys standing. I dont know if this is the plan but I agree wth an earlier post that more baseline movement or moving in an arc from side to side would probably free him up for more shots. I know a lot of guys hate on Haluska but at least he trys to speed things up and MOVES when he doesnt have the ball.

Rick, you will have to step up your game. There is an "Awesome Rick" posting on this thread. I am glad I don't have to post up against "AwesomeBalken."
 
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He came down pretty hard with his hand flat. It looked like he jammed his shoulder upward. I don't think that would cause a separation but it sure looked like it hurt like hell.
Watch our offense sometime. We have 3 guys moving and 2 guys standing. I dont know if this is the plan but I agree wth an earlier post that more baseline movement or moving in an arc from side to side would probably free him up for more shots. I know a lot of guys hate on Haluska but at least he trys to speed things up and MOVES when he doesnt have the ball.

I agree that we need more movement on offense. I wonder if it is fatigue, though. We don't have a deep bench of quality players waiting to give breathers. Just a thought. If Larry was doing the conditioning, there would never be a tired player.
 

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Coach Mac has said over and over how he does NOT want Lucca taking the ball to the hole, but rather shooting the ball.

Lucca turns it over at a very high rate while moving with the ball, so I can see his point
 

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This is right out of the gate. I don't know what type of offense they are running but I would think with the number of plays that are in the "book" there would be a bunch with movement
 

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He has also made 50 3s and is shooting over 40% behind the 3 line. His job is to shot 3s. He also has some nice passes to CB when there is an open lane. He passes to others for a close to the hoop shot instead of taking a lower percentage shot.

Maybe if he loses some weight he can get to the hoop more. :jimlad:
 

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I don't know which threads are worse. These Lucca threads or the threads about old Hilton Magic. They are both equally pathetic and they have no point. Just like Awesome Rick.
 

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Lucca is one, like Clark, will always be on my list of favorite players. Why? because when they had a chance to bail on the cyclones, they didn't. I don't care how the kid is playing, he's still great in my book.
 
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Has anyone ever thought of the idea that there is a guy in his face the whole game, forced to guard him beyond the 3 point arc, and the player usually defending him is a bigger guy that is used to playing inside? I wonder how that can help us out..........

For those that can't finish the sentence. Lucca is on the perimiter, we feed it to Brackins, if his guy doubles, Lucca is wide open for the 3. Or Lucca's guy can't help because he's too far away from the action. Their is a purpose why Lucca doesn't play inside. Why bring a non threat inside only to give the defense another defender to use against Brackins?
 
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Has anyone ever thought of the idea that there is a guy in his face the whole game, forced to guard him beyond the 3 point arc, and the player usually defending him is a bigger guy that is used to playing inside? I wonder how that can help us out..........

You must have missed the Kansas game last week: Morningstar is 2-3 inches shorter than Lucca, and at least 30 pounds lighter. Yet we didn't make KU pay for that mismatch at all.
 

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Yes, I am beating a dead horse. But I will beat on this horse and beat on it and keep beating on it!

Staiger is capable of giving us SO much more! Yet, he insists on hanging around the 3-point line on offense and refuses to go anywhere near the hoop like it is the source of some deadly contagion!

He DOES have the height and size to be a real force inside! For the record, Willie Warren is SHORTER than Staiger, and yet he had 29 points today. And, yes, he is also a freshman. If you ask people around here, they'd say you have to be 13 feet tall and at least a junior to be able to score inside, and that Staiger is a short little pipsqueak and unable to do it.

I know this will likely be moved, but I don't care. I want it read, not buried inside another 1000-message thread.


Go beat something else instead of posting your crap.:no::no::no::no:
 

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You must have missed the Kansas game last week: Morningstar is 2-3 inches shorter than Lucca, and at least 30 pounds lighter. Yet we didn't make KU pay for that mismatch at all.

Lucca has never, and will probably never play on the block. I believe the coaches are paid to put players in their best positions to succeed. Putting Lucca on the block is not putting him in a position to succeed. Understand?
 

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Lucca has never, and will probably never play on the block. I believe the coaches are paid to put players in their best positions to succeed.

Players like to stay in their comfort zone. Coaches are paid to push them out of it. Tim Floyd was famous for this (ask Michalik). Tim Floyd succeeded here.
Under Tim Floyd, either Lucca is more aggressive to the basket and draws fouls and free throws, or Lucca doesn't play.
 

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Players like to stay in their comfort zone. Coaches are paid to push them out of it. Tim Floyd was famous for this (ask Michalik). Tim Floyd succeeded here.
Under Tim Floyd, either Lucca is more aggressive to the basket and draws fouls and free throws, or Lucca doesn't play.

Is this Tim Floyd's team? Coaches don't push them out of their comfort zone in games. They push them out of their comfort zone in practice to see how the player responds. If the player doesn't respond in a way that makes him more of a threat, you don't employ that skill in games because the player is not ready to perform in that way. You put your players in a position in which they help the team the most, and in a position they are confident in their abilities.

Craig Brackins is comfortable on the block, he's comfortable outside. What do we have him do next? Run the point so McDermott is pushing him out of his comfort zone?
 
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luccas spot on the offense is to shoot 3's...obviously

but lately because he has been so gosh darn amazing the other team is putting a quick guard on him to chase him around and keep him from getting in rhythm and making those 3's

now if he were to go inside and have that guard on him than all he would do is clog the lane and keeping DG and CB from working. so it is better for him to keep one guy busy on the perimeter rather than staying in the lane so he can just clog it up and keep us from scoring
 

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Unfortunately for those who are bashing cyclone24 and this post, You are wrong.

*This post is right on. Those around the program would tell you that this post is RIGHT ON. This is a big issue with Lucca.

The fact is that Lucca does not like contact. period. But you can only push a player so far. He has to start developing his game to the level of more head fakes, more quick dribbles to the side to shoot, more driving to the hoop. His preference is to catch and shoot and he is sweet at that. But there needs to be more.

I think it is funny when a guy brings up a post that is right on and all these "expert" posters have their smart%&^& reactions to the post saying go away, yawn, etc.

According to what is going on in ISU mens basketball, this is something that is a big problem in getting this team to use what weapons it has.
 
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Unfortunately for those who are bashing cyclone24 and this post, You are wrong.

No, it's really not. Why pull him out of his comfort zone in a game? Practice is where you have a chance to expand his skill set. Do you put Jonathon Papelbon down as the starter in a game just because you know he can close it out? Lucca is a good three point shooter, Papelbon is a good closer. They have their roles and they know where they help their team the most. Now if you take and spend spring training getting Papelbon ready to be a starter, that's a different story, but you don't throw a player out there on a whim and hope he succeeds. Your job as a coach is to put him in a position to succeed.

He has an excellent shot fake (which is why you see players flying by him). He has proven he can shoot off the dribble, and he has proven that when given a chance (which isn't very often) that he can turn around and hit off picks. His game is around the perimeter for now. If all players were polished as soon as they came into college, there wouldn't be a need for coaching. He's got the perimeter figured out, but until he's confident in his ability to get to the rack and he proves he can do it, there's no reason to jeopardize it. Let him keep feeding Brackins down low.
 
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There is no room in major college basketball for a one dimensional player. Just one or two pump fake and drives would open up the game for the whole team, not to mention himself. Make the defender respect the drive and he can't close out like a mad man...
 

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